So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.
So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.
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... An unbiased opinion is always absolutely valueless.
Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,
the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection, and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?
Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,
There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.
There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.
There isn't much of a dispute _now_ but there was certainly a bunch of people with decission making power that thought the electoral process in some of the States were questionable at best.
It does not help that claims laid through the judicial system (famously the Texan one) were rejected for what ammounts to a form/technicality issue rather than a lack of evidence issue.
The whole deal is specially bleeding because what people was expecting Pence to do was to defer the acceptance of the questionable votes a number of day for proper investigation to ensue. No reject them outright or anything. Given that time ran against the Republicans in general, I don¤ t think it was an unreasonable expectation.
So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in
a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.
But I'm not surprised by it. It was inevitable. When someone spouts lies an unfounded accusations about the core of our democratic institution, and peop believe them, something like this was bound to happen.
That's the way democracy works, the person with the most votes wins.
There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.
That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.
There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.
A few thousand Americans are disbuting the elctions. That was made clear storming the white house.
Re: Washington Protests
By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:19 am
So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live i a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.
But I'm not surprised by it. It was inevitable. When someone spouts lies unfounded accusations about the core of our democratic institution, and p believe them, something like this was bound to happen.
I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should be removed from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also believe he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
HusTler wrote to Al <=-
That's the way democracy works, the person with the most votes wins.
That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.
That's the way democracy works, the person with the most votes wins.
That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.
There's nothing "sad" about it.
Things were set up that way for very good reasons.
I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should be remove
d from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also believe he should be >harged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.
A few thousand Americans are disbuting the elctions. That was made clear stor ming the white house.
That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.
There's nothing "sad" about it.
Things were set up that way for very good reasons.
DaiTengu wrote to Gamgee <=-
That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.
There's nothing "sad" about it.
Things were set up that way for very good reasons.
Right, good reasons like "We have a bunch of slaves in our
state, and therefore should get more votes based on the
population of those slaves"
Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election
because he wants Trump to come and make British Columbia Great Again.
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election
What you have now is not a dispute, it is sedition.
Re: Washington Protests
By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
Sedition was when Catalonia declared itself independent without running a clean referendum.
This is protesting the official results,
which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a much more destructive manner.
Re: Washington Protests
By: Arelor to Al on Sat Jan 09 2021 04:48 am
Sedition was when Catalonia declared itself independent without running clean referendum.
I'm not sure what you speak of regarding Catalonia.
This is protesting the official results,
What happened at the capitol was a seditious insurrection.
which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a much m destructive manner.
Uh huh. Can you give me an example?
Ttyl :-),
Al
... Plagiarism prohibited, derive carefully.
Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election
What you have now is not a dispute, it is sedition.
Right, good reasons like "We have a bunch of slaves in our state, and therefore
should get more votes based on the population of those slaves"
This is protesting the official results, which is something that has been done >by the left from 2016 in a much more destructive manner.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me >is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, >including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.
Arelor wrote to HusTler <=-
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt
he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
enforcers" et all.
Re: Washington Protests
By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been
showing me is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt
he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
enforcers" et all.
Yes, it is weird that he starts doing that and they suddenly/finally cut him off. It does not make sense.
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I'm not sure what you speak of regarding Catalonia.
This is protesting the official results,
What happened at the capitol was a seditious insurrection.
which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a
much m destructive manner.
Uh huh. Can you give me an example?
I think taking a square and proclaiming it is no longer part of America is more insurrective than protesting because you think Pence is a betrayer and there has not been proper accountability in the elections.
For that matter, all the shitshow with Black Panthers waving rifles in Atlanta and antifas putting people on their knees and forcing them to promise they were not going to vote for Trump is everybit as antidemocratic as protesting election results - if the elections are actually fair.
Frankly, just the fact there were terror troops prowling around and beating everybody who showed the wrong political colors casts a very dubious shadow on the whole electoral process even if you don't take into account claims about ballot manipulation at all.
which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a
much m destructive manner.
There are no terror troops prowling around and beating everybody.
Their is no argument above that..
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.
There are no terror troops prowling around and beating everybody.
Assault on the Hatfield Federal Courhouse by BLM and friends: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/25/portland-riots-read-out-july-25
Arsonism at Justice Center in Portland: https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/portland-man-charged-may-29-2020-arson- justice-center
This picture taken about 7 months ago in Atlanta shows that Black Panther's idea of political agreement involves superior firepower: https://i.redd.it/4mzso8giqe351.jpg
There are also lots of news of people beaten or harassed because they wear the wrong colors but the list is too extensive (and repetitive) to reproduce.
If you want to hear of specific acts of insubordination, I think one of the most graphic is NYSE's refusal to go through the Executive Order which would delist Chinesse firms affiliated with Chinesse military activities. This order was emitted in Novembre before the Jan 6 was a thing and skipping it is an obvious case of "Fuck you, I don't recognize your authority."
he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
enforcers" et all.
Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live video of what Trump told a crowd at a rally that day. Decide for yourself.
that's exactly what happened, too.
they want him out in disgrace.
You'd almost think that it was a coordinated effort to suppress that message.
But that's impossible. The Social Media companies don't coordinate things lik
that - according to their
testimony to Congress.
HusTler wrote to Arelor <=-
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.
Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live
Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-message.
You'd almost think that it was a coordinated effort to suppress that
But that's impossible. The Social Media companies don't coordinate thingslik
that - according to their
testimony to Congress.
They flat out lied.
Dumas Walker wrote to DAITENGU <=-
GD it, for the last time that isn't why we have an electoral college.
The 3/5ths rule (what you are talking about) came into play BECAUSE we
had an electoral college. NOT the other way around.
Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me
is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through,
including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.
Yes, it is weird that he starts doing that and they suddenly/finally
cut him off. It does not make sense.
It makes perfect sense if they want to suppress the facts.
Dumas Walker wrote to HUSTLER <=-e
I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should be remove
d from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also believe he should
harged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
At this point I would worry that removing him would only make things
worse rather than better.
Al wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Re: Washington Protests
By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Fri Jan 08 2021 05:15 pm
Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election
What you have now is not a dispute, it is sedition.
because he wants Trump to come and make British Columbia Great Again.
British Columbia is a great place, there is no need to make it great again.
Arelor wrote to HusTler <=-
Re: Washington Protests
By: HusTler to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:12 pm
Re: Washington Protests
By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt
he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
enforcers" et all.
Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-one
This is protesting the official results, which is something that has been
by the left from 2016 in a much more destructive manner.
Al doesn't believe in antifa or left-wing non-peaceful protesters.
Those cities set fire to themselves. Portland's mayor is imagining it all.
MRO wrote to HusTler <=-
Re: Washington Protests
By: HusTler to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:12 pm
Re: Washington Protests
By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
i didnt see him inciting a riot.
he said we're going to walk down to the capital and cheer on our brave senators and congress men and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. because you will never take back
our country with weakness, you have to show strength and be strong.
then when it was going on i saw posts of him saying to be peaceful and respect the police.
he may have incited a protest, which is not illegal.
trump did nothing wrong in this case.
HusTler wrote to Arelor <=-
Re: Washington Protests
By: Arelor to HusTler on Sat Jan 09 2021 04:49 am
he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.
Crimes such as...?
Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.
I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.
Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live
Al wrote to Dr. What <=-
Re: Re: Washington Protests
By: Dr. What to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 2021 10:07 am
It makes perfect sense if they want to suppress the facts.
They wanted to stop Donald Trump's endless lies and misinformation, and that is what they did.
Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live
I have and he did not incite violence. SMH.....
Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live
I have and he did not incite violence. SMH.....
Tell that to the dead woman's family.
There is no Sedition... Some people did some things.
There's some of those types that have infiltrated from the Bay Area to up here in the hills that claim the same thing. Trying to tell me we are all antifa therefore there is no "Antifa". SMH....
They wanted to stop Donald Trump's endless lies and misinformation,
and that is what they did.
Wrong.... Jeez.... SMH.
Exactly! That's what I can't figure out about these people saying he started it. All I heard was "protest peacefully". Of course most "haters" have been reading between the lines his whole term....
There's some of those types that have infiltrated from the Bay Area to up here
in the hills that claim the same thing. Trying to tell me we are all antifa therefore there is no "Antifa". SMH....
Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live
I have and he did not incite violence. SMH.....
Tell that to the dead woman's family.
Sedition is the incitement of resistance to or insurrection against a lawful a
hority.
Donald Trump himself carried out the sedition and his followers carried out an
nsurrection.
It's strange to see that in the USA but that is what happened.
That is OK. Joe Biden can pardon/commute the sentences of anyone who gets in trouble,
just like the 3 most recent Democrat Presidents before him.
That is what they are best at... pardoning/commuting the sentences of seditious conspirators and domestic terrorists.
That is OK. Joe Biden can pardon/commute the sentences of anyone who gets
in trouble,
Yes, he can do that. I have confidence that Joe Biden will exercise his pardon
ower in a better way than the current corrupt president.
just like the 3 most recent Democrat Presidents before him.
That is what they are best at... pardoning/commuting the sentences of seditious conspirators and domestic terrorists.
Seditious conspiracies and domestic terrorists are what you have now under Don
d Trump. There may yet be pardons by Donald Trump to get out of it.
Open your eyes and have a look at Donald Trumps America.
Open your eyes and have a look at Donald Trumps America.
So far, Donald Trump has not pardoned/commuted anyone convicted of seditious conspiracy or domestic terrorism. Obama, Clinton, and Carter all three did.
But I do realize that doing so, and having far larger numbers of pardons/commutations means they were not using it wrong, based on past discussion with you. It is ok for them to do so cause they're D's.
So far, Donald Trump has not pardoned/commuted anyone convicted of seditious conspiracy or domestic terrorism. Obama, Clinton, and Carter al
three did.
Donald Trump pardoned people in his inner circle, his advisors, for crimes the
committed in his service.
He also pardoned war criminals who murdered unarmed civilians in Iraq.
We've been down this road before and I'll tell you again. A "D" or an "R" can
corrupt and if they do something "bad" they should be held accountable.
So did Obama (inner circle) and Clinton (inner circle for crimes committed in his service).
He also pardoned war criminals who murdered unarmed civilians in Iraq.
And that is worse than domestic terrorists who blew up unarmed American civilians on US soil? Clinton and Obama both pardoned/commuted sentences for members of a group that did that.
And yet it seems to. Paraphrasing -- "Trump has abused his pardon/commutation power more than any President before him" ignores how much, much more often that his predecessors used that power and what they used it for. Only things I can figure are it is because he is an "R", you have something against him personally, or you have a very short attention span.
So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.
|03 HusTler
Re: Washington Protests
By: Al to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 12:30 am
There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.
A few thousand Americans are disbuting the elctions. That was made clear storming the white house.
I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should
be removed from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also
believe he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves
office.
Crimes such as...?
Al wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Donald Trump pardoned people in his inner circle, his advisors, for
crimes they committed in his service.
We've been down this road before and I'll tell you again. A "D" or an
"R" can be corrupt and if they do something "bad" they should be held accountable.
I don't think Donald Trump's "R" or "D" status is an issue, but the actions he has taken are.
Donald Trump pardoned people in his inner circle, his advisors, for
crimes they committed in his service.
i.e. Leftie delusional crimes with about as my evidence as the "Russia" hoax.
So did Obama (inner circle) and Clinton (inner circle for crimes committe
in his service).
I am not aware of Obama or Clinton pardoning any staffers, aids or advisors.
Who were they and what were their crimes committed in his service?
And that is worse than domestic terrorists who blew up unarmed American civilians on US soil? Clinton and Obama both pardoned/commuted sentences for members of a group that did that.
I would say it is. The USA has, over the years spent considerable time and res
rces litigating war crimes. Why any president would consider a pardon for a wa
criminal is beyond me.
Obama used his pardon powers more. Largely because he encouraged federal priso
rs to apply for commutation under the Clemency Initiative.
I have given you names and examples, more than once. You ignore them each time so I won't bother.
Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute, the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection, and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?
Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,
the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection,
and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?
They're not under dispute you fucking treasonous moron. The only person claiming any of that bullshit is Trump and his sycophantic seditious terrorists. Shut the fuck up and get out of this country.
On 01/07/2021 10:00 am Arelor said...
Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,
the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection,
and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?
They're not under dispute you fucking treasonous moron. The only person claiming any of that bullshit is Trump and his sycophantic seditious terrorists. Shut the fuck up and get out of this country.
Making any argument to the contrary is creating a false narrative which is exactly what the Trump Administration and FOX News, OANN, and Newsmax want you to believe.
Constitutionally, the argument is closed, Joe Biden won and this must be accepted whether you like it or not. Accept the Constitutional transfer of power.
They're not under dispute you fucking treasonous moron. The only person claiming any of that bullshit is Trump and his
sycophantic seditious terrorists. Shut the fuck up and get out of this country.
Seriously, there is absolutely no reason to pick on each other. Immediately resorting to name calling, cussing, and such wi
lose your audience and argument immediately.
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