• Publishing plans for 2020

    From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 16:58:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Thursday 19.11.20 - 11:03, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    I have just put the store online. Fucking awesome!

    The official announcement is here:
    http://www.richardfalken.com/2020/11/The-Store-is-Online.html

    Are you getting pretty good activity since last time?


    Wanna do that for my 15,000 qty inventory of books? I need it
    done before yesterday. LOL

    It sounds like fun to me.

    I am not a selfish person. I want you to have all that fun.

    There was a rather large used-books shop several years ago, that
    made a rather big splash cataloguing their entire inventory on
    Abebooks, nearly 500,000 titles.. and then within three years of
    that, shut down. That seemed unusual and sad. I rather enjoyed
    scoping out (ie, spying) their content, and even place a few
    orders every once in a while. So, the online presence did not
    bring them enough biz to justify the ongoing Abebooks fees.

    Myself included.. I had a modicum of titles listed on Abebooks..
    and over time, the frequency of sales from that channel declined.

    But there are about two other alternative places, including eBay,
    that could work for me.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Thursday, January 07, 2021 02:51:00
    Re: Publishing plans for 2020
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Wed Jan 06 2021 04:58 pm

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Thursday 19.11.20 - 11:03, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    I have just put the store online. Fucking awesome!

    The official announcement is here:
    http://www.richardfalken.com/2020/11/The-Store-is-Online.html

    Are you getting pretty good activity since last time?


    Wanna do that for my 15,000 qty inventory of books? I need it
    done before yesterday. LOL

    It sounds like fun to me.

    I am not a selfish person. I want you to have all that fun.

    There was a rather large used-books shop several years ago, that
    made a rather big splash cataloguing their entire inventory on
    Abebooks, nearly 500,000 titles.. and then within three years of
    that, shut down. That seemed unusual and sad. I rather enjoyed
    scoping out (ie, spying) their content, and even place a few
    orders every once in a while. So, the online presence did not
    bring them enough biz to justify the ongoing Abebooks fees.

    Myself included.. I had a modicum of titles listed on Abebooks..
    and over time, the frequency of sales from that channel declined.

    But there are about two other alternative places, including eBay,
    that could work for me.

    Well, I wrote The Revenge of the Electronic Kid, which is still pending revision (and hence not mentioned online). I haven't managed to do a lot with The Flaming Wrath of  relor since the the beginning of the year, but I am
    still ahead of schedule. I have been too busy fulfilling a Linux News Media assignment which I just got finished yesterday.

    I plan on retaking The Flaming Wrath of  relor this afternoon.

    I used to be a BIG Abebooks customer. However, they seem not to be as great as they used to be. Being purchased by Amazon didn't do them well.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/TRMB to Arelor on Thursday, January 07, 2021 11:56:37
    But there are about two other alternative places, including eBay,
    that could work for me.

    I used to be a BIG Abebooks customer. However, they seem not to be as great as they used to be. Being purchased by Amazon didn't do them well.

    There still seems to be quite a few bookstores represented by Abe. The defiant holdouts? There seems to be 459 sellers in Spain. Many are probably on-line only.

    For me $25USD/mo just to be listed, was not worth it at one point. I don't like the shAmazon affiliation, so I am not going back.

    I like the ethic of libro.fm. Although they are just audio books, they provide a website presence for me, as well as this thing:

    https://bookstorelink.com/

    It's a great way for people to find an independent bookshop that is local to them, and the purchase supports that shop! USA & Canada only at this time.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Thursday, January 07, 2021 15:58:33
    Re: Re: Publishing plans for 2020
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Jan 07 2021 11:56 am

    I used to be a BIG Abebooks customer. However, they seem not to be as gre as they used to be. Being purchased by Amazon didn't do them well.

    There still seems to be quite a few bookstores represented by Abe. The defia holdouts? There seems to be 459 sellers in Spain. Many are probably on-lin only.

    For me $25USD/mo just to be listed, was not worth it at one point. I don't l the shAmazon affiliation, so I am not going back.

    I don t say they are doing worse as a business, but they provide less of a serice than they used to.

    Back in the day you could buy 10 books from a single seller and you paid for the delivery once. Now they bill you as if each book was shipped in a separate package.

    It is still cost efficient if the cost of the book is very low. Say, if each book is worth 5 cents and you are paying 5 bucks delivery, you are getting the book for 5,05 bucks which is not that bad. The problem is, the bookseller is making crap out of that deal.

    If you complain about their 25USD/month, you weren't there when it was 40-something.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Thursday, January 07, 2021 22:02:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Thursday 07.01.21 - 15:58, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    For me $25USD/mo just to be listed, was not worth it at one point. I don't
    l the shAmazon affiliation, so I am not going back.

    I don t say they are doing worse as a business, but they provide less of a serice than they used to.

    Back in the day you could buy 10 books from a single seller and you paid for the delivery once. Now they bill you as if each book was shipped in a separate package.

    Many sellers still have that. When you select "Destination,
    rates & speeds", the pop-up window has the price for the "First
    book: C$ x.xx, and then, "Additional books from same seller: C$
    x.xx"

    The rate for addtional items are often a bit lower, but not THAT
    much lower. :( But, the feature is still there to the seller if
    they want to configure it. It's not Abe's doing if the lower rate
    is not there.


    It is still cost efficient if the cost of the book is very low. Say, if each book is worth 5 cents and you are paying 5 bucks delivery, you are getting the book for 5,05 bucks which is not that bad. The problem is, the bookseller is making crap out of that deal.

    That's the way I look at it. When I find books for people, my
    cost price obviously includes the shipping. I simply add a small
    percentage for the task of research, handling and payment
    processing.


    If you complain about their 25USD/month, you weren't there when it was 40-something.

    It's a tiered payment stucture. The lowest tier is $25USD/mo for
    up to 500 titles. The most I ever listed was about 400. Looking
    at the subscription fees, no wonder the seller that posted in the
    150,001 - 500,000 range could probably not sustain the $400/mo
    for too long.


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