Re: covid go away day
By: Elf to ANDEDDU on Sun Jun 20 2021 08:52 pm

And assuming all the above is true, this should be a warning that
*maybe* genetically modifying our food is not a good idea. We need to do more to live with nature instead of bending and manipulating it to our
will. Having said that, I also feel it's too late. You can't take my computer(s) away from me and whatever deadly process we used to make
them. LOL :-)

~Elf

I agree. GMO crops and powerful pesticides have played havok with the eco-system. There is also the problem with GMO seeds, which are patented, causing cross-pollincation with other natural plants resulting in fines for organic crop farmers. The majority of our crops are contolled by very few companies now and the last thing anyone should wish for is a food monopoly/duopoly. Farmers who purchase GMO seeds sign an agreemnt to purchase new seed each year and MUST NOT save seeds from their crops to plant the following year. It's quite unnatural and I am against it as the corporations are in control rather than the farmers themselves.

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** On Tuesday 22.06.21 - 23:40, Andeddu wrote to Elf:

[...] GMO crops and powerful pesticides have played havok
with the eco-system. There is also the problem with GMO
seeds, which are patented, causing cross-pollincation with
other natural plants resulting in fines for organic crop
farmers.

Wrt fines, the process of law should have protected the organic
grower, not the companies that plant their invasive gmo'd
variety next to the unassuming farmer's crops. I'm astonished
that the courts seem to side with the likes of Monsanto and
don't look at the issue of cross-pollination as an uncontrolled
consequence that cannot be pinned on the organic farmer.

The majority of our crops are contolled by very few
companies now and the last thing anyone should wish for is
a food monopoly/duopoly.

I think there has been a growing awareness of the problem, and
more and more farmers are turning down contracts with the gmo
producers.

Farmers who purchase GMO seeds sign an agreemnt to purchase
new seed each year and MUST NOT save seeds from their crops
to plant the following year. It's quite unnatural and I am
against it as the corporations are in control rather than
the farmers themselves.

I think the reason to not use (or save) the seeds is that those
seeds are not necessarily as robust (full spec) as the
initially treated ones.


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Re: GMO crops and powerful pesticides have played havok
By: Ogg to Andeddu on Mon Jul 26 2021 07:49 pm

Wrt fines, the process of law should have protected the organic
grower, not the companies that plant their invasive gmo'd
variety next to the unassuming farmer's crops. I'm astonished
that the courts seem to side with the likes of Monsanto and
don't look at the issue of cross-pollination as an uncontrolled
consequence that cannot be pinned on the organic farmer.

I think there has been a growing awareness of the problem, and
more and more farmers are turning down contracts with the gmo
producers.

I think the reason to not use (or save) the seeds is that those
seeds are not necessarily as robust (full spec) as the
initially treated ones.

The courts side with the multi-nationals because they've been lobbying for decades and have pushed legislation to protect them and their businesses. The future will be GMO farming for the masses as swathes of land have been purchased by people like Bill Gates who are heavily invested in GMO crops and synthetic meat products. Organic produce is soon going to be too expensive for even the middle classes to purchase.

We've been seeing abnormally warm weather decimate crop yields... I wonder if GMO crops fared better in the heat.

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