I have my dad's old Microsoft yellowed intellimouse, recovered from my mom's junk drawer. It's a sunny day, and I'm going to experiment with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda to see if I can bleach it out.
If I do, I might have to pull out my 30 year-old Model M keyboard and go retro for a while.
I have my dad's old Microsoft yellowed intellimouse, recovered from my mom's junk drawer. It's a sunny day, and I'm going to experiment with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda to see if I can bleach it out.
If I do, I might have to pull out my 30 year-old Model M keyboard and go retro for a while.
I just realized that my new computer is the first one I've had without PS/2 ports! Luckily I have a USB to PS/2 adapter, somewhere.
... Remove ambiguities and convert to specifics
I have my dad's old Microsoft yellowed intellimouse, recovered from my mom's junk drawer. It's a sunny day, and I'm going to experiment with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda to see if I can bleach it out.
I have my dad's old Microsoft yellowed intellimouse, recovered from my mom's junk drawer. It's a sunny day, and I'm going to experiment with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda to see if I can bleach it out.
no idea about hydrogen peroxide but 8bit guy on youtube had great results with retrobrite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZYbchvSUDY
I've seen others use it and similar products on youtube videos. Worth a search for restoring retro computing equipment as I have seen videos like that several times
junk drawer. It's a sunny day, and I'm going to experiment with hydroge peroxide and baking soda to see if I can bleach it out.
the plastic has aged. wont work. spraypaint it
junk drawer. It's a sunny day, and I'm going to experiment with hydroge peroxide and baking soda to see if I can bleach it out.
the plastic has aged. wont work. spraypaint it
you're talking about something people do on youtube all the time.. with great success..
arent you that guy who ran the os2 synchronet bbs?
yeah it's not yellow because it's aged, it's discolored from something else. i'd like to know what that something else is.
i've had old stuff like that and it didnt yellow. i wonder if this is from smokers.
arent you that guy who ran the os2 synchronet bbs?
ya. though now it's neither sync nor os/2. bit of a shame not to be repping big blue, but the missing modern features list (if things like long filename support can be called modern) in original sync kinda got old.
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to fusion on Sun Mar 07 2021 06:25 pm
yeah it's not yellow because it's aged, it's discolored from something else. i'd like to know what that something else is.
i've had old stuff like that and it didnt yellow. i wonder if this is from smokers.
I've heard some white plastics can turn yellow by being exposed to sunlight too much.
so did you sustain a head injury or something that made you want to use mystic? :D :D :D
I have my dad's old Microsoft yellowed intellimouse, recovered from my mom's>junk drawer. It's a sunny day, and I'm going to experiment with hydrogen
If I do, I might have to pull out my 30 year-old Model M keyboard and go>retro for a while.
I just realized that my new computer is the first one I've had without PS/2>ports! Luckily I have a USB to PS/2 adapter, somewhere.
Rob Mccart wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Maybe this is the place to ask this question. The computer I use most
of the time is running Vista but I'm running into more and more web
sites that won't run on the newest Browser that Vista supports (A
Mozilla variation from about 2010). Would it be possible to run a
Windows 7 Virtual Machine on Vista to have occasional access to a newer browser or is a full reinstall of something newer my only option?
Maybe this is the place to ask this question. The computer I use most of the time is running Vista but I'm running into more and more web sites that won' run on the newest Browser that Vista supports (A Mozilla variation from abou 2010). Would it be possible to run a Windows 7 Virtual Machine on Vista to have occasional access to a newer browser or is a full reinstall of somethin newer my only option?
Maybe this is the place to ask this question. The computer I use most>How much memory do you have in your computer, and how big is your disk?
of the time is running Vista
Would it be possible to run a Windows 7 Virtual Machine on Vista
You'd be better off doing at least an upgrade, if you could, to Windows 10.
Would it be possible to run a Windows 7 Virtual Machine on Vista
It should be doable as long as you have enough RAM and CPU cycles to spare.
Another alternative if it is just for a couple of sites, is to get a copy of>Knoppix. Knoppix is a operating system that you can boot from a DVD
I'm not even sure this machine would run Windows 7 (but possibly).
Single core 2.0 Ghz Celeron with the maximum RAM the motherboard
supports, which is only 2 gig.
Rob Mccart wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
I'm not even sure this machine would run Windows 7 (but possibly).
Single core 2.0 Ghz Celeron with the maximum RAM the motherboard
supports, which is only 2 gig.
I'm not even sure this machine would run Windows 7 (but possibly).>Windows 7.. 4GB of ram. loading a web browser brought me back to my Windows
Single core 2.0 Ghz Celeron with the maximum RAM the motherboard
supports, which is only 2 gig.
i recently set up (and quickly abandoned) a Pentium 4 3.2GHz machine with
i replaced it with a Lenovo E31 (still Windows 7.. 32-bit) and it seems to be>the sweet spot. and fairly inexpensive. hopefully i can baby it until i'm lon
Hard to believe you got a P4 Motherboard that supports 4GB of ram.
system. (?) I tried looking that up and found one listed (discontinued) but it was running an I7 5th Gen Core which is probably not what yours is..
I don't so much mind the limitations of my Laptop mentioned above, other than the problem with it not allowing Software updates anymore. Unfortunately Vista software updates are the same as Win XP, not Win 7..
I don't so much mind the limitations of my Laptop mentioned above, other than the problem with it not allowing Software updates anymore. Unfortunately Vista software updates are the same as Win XP, not Win 7..>Windows 7, and probably will Windows 10 too..
sounds like you're a bit like me.. i clung to OS/2, Windows 2000, Windows XP,
Up until about 2015 I was still running a system, updated as much as humanly possible, running Windows 98. That was always my favourite OS where it did a lot more than older versions but the user still had more direct control over it. I did a lot of manually editing the Registry and
I finally had to break down and get a Windows 7 Laptop to do some things that a lack of updates finally made impossible.
I don't mind Windows 7 all that much but it always seems every new release is more protective of itself allowing the user less and less control.
I've used Windows 10 a little at other people's places but I'd have to start over again to figure out how to work around the way Windows intended..
yeah, 98 seems to be the "retro computing" favorite. all the little windows 95 promises polished up and functional.
I does bother me, though, when the OS tries to prevent me from
running a program because it's not "authorized" by the OS or other restrictions.
Windows 98 was when I went to shut down the PC, Windows 98 would get
stuck on the shutdown screen and not fully shut down. I think there may
Up until about 2015 I was still running a system, updated as much as humanly possible, running Windows 98. That was always my favourite OS>95 promises polished up and functional.
yeah, 98 seems to be the "retro computing" favorite. all the little windows
yeah, 98 seems to be the "retro computing" favorite. all the little windo
95 promises polished up and functional.
Yes, it was a massive improvement over Win95 and added on so many things like decent USB support and (not always from Microsoft) universal drivers for things like up to 32 gig Flash Drives.
Another advantage was, being so 'out of date', it was virtually Virus immune since no one was aiming at it..
If it supported newer browsers I'd still be running it on my main machine. Best I could manage was the 2011 release of Opera (Mozilla based I believe). Newer Opera versions are Chrome based, or probably I should say Chrome uses the same browser engine if my info on that is still up to date.
I does bother me, though, when the OS tries to prevent me from
running a program because it's not "authorized" by the OS or other
restrictions.
Yup, I downloaded Syncterm 1.2a the other day and Credge (Chromium
Edge) was warning me that the file was "untrustworthy" and could
"harm your computer".
I was like f@*# off and let me run the damn file!
Up until about 2015 I was still running a system, updated as much
as humanly possible, running Windows 98. That was always my
favourite OS
yeah, 98 seems to be the "retro computing" favorite. all the little
windows 95 promises polished up and functional.
Yes, it was a massive improvement over Win95 and added on so many
things like decent USB support and (not always from Microsoft)
universal drivers for things like up to 32 gig Flash Drives.
I've been using PCs for a long time (I started using IBM compatibles around t>late 90s, when DOS was big and Wnidows 3 was coming around). I like having c
I does bother me, though, when the OS tries to prevent me from running a prog> because it's not "authorized" by the OS or other restrictions.
Windows 98 was good, but I remember one recurring problem I had with Windows>was when I went to shut down the PC, Windows 98 would get stuck on the shutdo
Windows ME tends to get a lot of hate, but I ran ME for a little while and di>t have a problem with it.
Tracker1 wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
I switched directly from OS/2 to NT4 around that time... I did think
that Windows 2000 with LiteStep Shell (I think it was called that) was pretty great. IIRC I went to XP with SP3, and used the MCE desktop
theme. Then Win7 on release, 8 SP2 with classic shell, and now Win10. I've run Linux desktop environments for a couple months at a time every few years.
Yesterday I was listening to the Leo LaPorte radio show (he gives computer &>hnology advice), and there were 2 people who called in who said they still ha
I couldn't stand the Windows 8 start menu, used classic shell to emulate a XP environment, down to the colors and the wallpaper.
Sounds like we ran in some of the same circles. I was a Netware admin
in the early '90s, and OS/2 made a great admin platform for Netware
servers - lots of console windows without drivers in low memory. DOS
VDMs for apps that needed a native DOS environment.
Switched to NT4 when the internet came around, and I had a couple of databases to manage. Really enjoyed the eye-candy of Litestep, ran
it on the BBS for some time, and ran it on old Dell boxes running
Windows 2000 that needed all the RAM they could muster.
I couldn't stand the Windows 8 start menu, used classic shell to
emulate a XP environment, down to the colors and the wallpaper.
That reminds me, I think it's time for my 2-screen "Dark Bliss"
wallpaper and an XP menu again. :)
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Not only that, but since Windows 8, I think the whole Windows UI has looked fairly flat and monotone since then. It's basically the same
with the other major operating systems too. I don't really like that
some typical UI elements don't look like what they're supposed to be anymore. The worst might be buttons that are just plain flat rectangles
- Sometimes it can be hard to tell if they're buttons or just colored boxes. Another thing that bugs me is, on some Windows 10 setups I've seen, the default color for the active Windows Explorer window border
is white, so it blends in with parts of the screen that have white
(such as other Windows Explorer windows, web browser windows, etc.),
and the Windows Explorer border will be hard (if not impossible) to
see.
Not only that, but since Windows 8, I think the whole Windows UI has
looked fairly flat and monotone since then. It's basically the same
This design trend drives me crazy!! They call it "getting the interface out of your way," or some other such nonsense. It's called lazy development. It's poor design. You cannot get the "interface" out of our way, we NEED something to INTERFACE us with the SYSTEM. That is what it is for. Since we cannot communicate with and control our computers with our thoughts yet (not to the degree necessary to do work in today's world) we need those buttons to look like buttons. We need borders around those borders. We need depth and dinstinction between one application and
example I encountered in web design. I spent 30 minutes one day looking for a field on a form and could not find it. Why? There was no field border of any kind around it. There was just text on the screen and not until you clicked on the non- highlighted text did a faint borde show up revealing it *might* be a field!
Our computer screens are not small phone screens and our phones cannot
do all our computers can as efficiently as our computers can. Ugh.
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to fusion on Sun Mar 07 2021 06:25 pm
yeah it's not yellow because it's aged, it's discolored from something else. i'd like to know what that something else is.
i've had old stuff like that and it didnt yellow. i wonder if this is f smokers.
I've heard some white plastics can turn yellow by being exposed to sunlight
Nightfox
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm
this is from last march
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Aug 15 2021 09:59 am
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Mar 07 2021 09:39 pm
this is from last march
Yep, that's indeed what the date says.
...and?
it's almost 5 and a half months ago. we've moved on from that post.
people shouldnt reply to old shit.
that's your 'and'
Maybe they hadn't seen it yet. Not everyone reads Dove-Net every day.
There are people who might not read Dove-Net for months and then check back.
I'm wondering why it bothers you so much?
it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply to posts that are many months old.
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 17 2021 09:00:07
it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not reply to posts that are many months old.
Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting
and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to
it's good msg network etquette to update your msg pointers and not
reply to posts that are many months old.
Well that's definitely not true. Reply to messages that are interesting and relevant, simple as that. God didn't come down from the heavens to tell people Thou Shalt Not Reply to Messages A Few Months Old. You're
just making up useless etiquette rules where none exist.
update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.
Yep. If someone wants to talk about a particular subject, would it be better to start up a new thread, even though it has been discussed before?
And if you're just looking for information, a forum search is often a good thing to do, as there might be an old thread that can provide some useful information.
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: MRO to Ksource on Wed Aug 18 2021 08:56 am
update your msg pointers so you dont necro post.
So, if someone wants to discuss a particular subject, even if it has been discussed before, would it be better for them to start a new thread?
Nightfox
I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasonable probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though. Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm
I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasonable probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though. Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)
i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they'd like to update their msg pointers.
almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it by accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize it until later.
i've done it myself.
Re: Re: Bleach Time!
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Aug 18 2021 03:47 pm
I don't think necroing an old thread is bad as long as there is a reasona probability that the people originally involved with it is around, though Maybe it is just me but I don't feel assaulted by necros or anything :-)
i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they like to update their msg pointers.
almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing it b accident. these msgs are new to them, but not new and they dont realize it until later.
i've done it myself.
Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they li via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the default value is 30 (days).
i think it really shows a flaw in the synchronet interface.
when a new user gets past the application i think it should ask them if they'd like to update their msg pointers.
Each sysop has the option to set new users' message pointers however they like via SCFG->System->New User Values->Days of New Messages. I think the default value is 30 (days).
almost ALL the time, when a new user replies to old msgs they are doing
Actually, this is somethign I have actually thought myself. Synchronet would benefit if there was an option for having the message pointers automatically set upon the registration of a new user. Right now, a new user that registers ends up having thousands of unread messages to check, onyl a small fraction of which are current enough to be worth checking.
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