Apple Store has given Parler 24 hours to implement heavy moderation policies, or they will be removed from the App Store. Meanwhile, high profile Trump supporters such as Powell are being kicked out of their mainstream social media accounts.
If this isn't a coordinated effort to supress opinions online, then nothing short of lining people on the street and shooting them is.
Sorry, snowflake. this is capitalism. let the FREE MARKET decide!
If this isn't a coordinated effort to supress opinions online,
then nothing short of lining people on the street and shooting
them is.
Sorry, snowflake. this is capitalism. let the FREE MARKET decide!
https://redstate.com/streiff/2021/01/09/amazon-apple-google-block-parler-n 307503
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In this case Apple, Google and Amazon are a few bakeries in your
town, and Parler is the gay wedding cake. None of them want to
make it.
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In this case Apple, Google and Amazon are a few bakeries in your
town, and Parler is the gay wedding cake. None of them want to
make it.
Interesting analogy.
Let me ask you this: Were you all "up in arms" over that cake controversy? Were you screaming that the bakeries had no right to
refuse service? Please tell the truth.
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In this case Apple, Google and Amazon are a few bakeries in your town, and Parler is the gay wedding cake. None of them want to make it.
Let me ask you this: Were you all "up in arms" over that
cake controversy? Were you screaming that the bakeries
had no right to refuse service? Please tell the truth.
The analogy is not applicable. The "Gay wedding cake"
involved one human being reuesting another to perform an
action they didn't agree with. That is not the same with
Parler.
IT may be equivalent if the person running the cake store
refused to provide service to gay people, but in this case,
as I understand it, the objection was the creation of a
specific cake.
No one at Amazon was asked to do something they don't want
to do.
In this case Apple, Google and Amazon are a few bakeries in yourInteresting analogy.
town, and Parler is the gay wedding cake. None of them want to
make it.
Let me ask you this: Were you all "up in arms" over that cake controversy? Were you screaming that the bakeries had no right to
refuse service? Please tell the truth.
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Let me ask you this: Were you all "up in arms" over that
cake controversy? Were you screaming that the bakeries
had no right to refuse service? Please tell the truth.
The analogy is not applicable. The "Gay wedding cake"
involved one human being reuesting another to perform an
action they didn't agree with. That is not the same with
Parler.
Perhaps the bakery could have supplied the base cake only, and
let the customer to provide the "topper" separately. How a cake
is used or represented doesn't really matter in the end. Anyone
can order a (insert occassion) cake and then feed it to farm
animals pigs or destroy it.
IT may be equivalent if the person running the cake store
refused to provide service to gay people, but in this case,
as I understand it, the objection was the creation of a
specific cake.
I agree. A potential customer has no authority to demand that
something specific be obtained or be created that is not within
a business' own business plan. If that were the case, then
every car dealership would have to carry makes and models of
cars that they don't want to.
No one at Amazon was asked to do something they don't want
to do.
They do what they want.
I volunteered at a summer jazz festival to monitor the perimeter
and discourage people from jumping the barriers to get in for
free. One time I approached one such person attempting to cross
the barriers. The guy went into a fit citing that I was doing
this only because he was black. People can get all in a tizzy
because they are so full of themselves - and think the whole
world is against them because they are so self-conscious of
their background.
DaiTengu wrote to Gamgee <=-
In this case Apple, Google and Amazon are a few bakeries in your
town, and Parler is the gay wedding cake. None of them want to
make it.
Interesting analogy.
Let me ask you this: Were you all "up in arms" over that cake
controversy? Were you screaming that the bakeries had no right to
refuse service? Please tell the truth.
I disagreed with it to a point, yes. I was not "up in arms"
about it, and the Supreme Court made their decision on the case. (Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission (2018))
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding
"religious freedom" and insisting "the free market" will take
care of the issue.
In this case "The Free Market" is taking care of the Parler
issue.
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By: Gamgee to DaiTengu on Tue Jan 12 2021 07:29 am
In this case Apple, Google and Amazon are a few bakeries in yourInteresting analogy.
town, and Parler is the gay wedding cake. None of them want to
make it.
Let me ask you this: Were you all "up in arms" over that cake
controversy? Were you screaming that the bakeries had no right to
refuse service? Please tell the truth.
I disagreed with it to a point, yes. I was not "up in arms" about it,
and the Supreme Court made their decision on the case. (Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission (2018))
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding "religious freedom" and insisting "the free market" will take care of the issue.
In this case "The Free Market" is taking care of the Parler issue.
DaiTengu
... Omens are there to be broken.
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding
"religious freedom" and insisting "the free market" will take
care of the issue.
In this case "The Free Market" is taking care of the Parler
issue.
I suppose so. I'm assuming (not that I really care) that Parler will
be back when they find suitable hosting services. Should be a simple thing, actually.
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In this case "The Free Market" is taking care of the Parler
issue.
I suppose so. I'm assuming (not that I really care) that Parler will
be back when they find suitable hosting services. Should be a simple thing, actually.
The CEO is saying he's bankrupt, and he can't find a new hosting
service, because no one will host it.
I guess that's what happens when you host content full of hate
speech, and that people use to plan attacks upon government officials/buildings.
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding
"religious freedom" and insisting "the free market" will take care
of the issue.
In this case "The Free Market" is taking care of the Parler issue.
This is why I really dislike Libertarians. For years and years they argued free market, and squealed like stuck pigs the moment their ideology was used against them.
I really, really oppose what Big Tech is doing, but I must admit there is a tiny silver lining, in seeing all these Right Libertarians get burned by their own ideas.
The CEO is saying he's bankrupt, and he can't find a new hosting service, because no one will host it.
The CEO is saying he's bankrupt, and he can't find a new hosting service, because no one will host it.
I guess that's what happens when you host content full of hate speech, and t people use to plan attacks upon government officials/buildings.
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding "religious freedom" >nd insisting "the free market" will take care of the issue.
In any case, as far as I am aware, Parler was actually enforcing anti-violence
rules - some people got posts deleted and such - which leads to me believe Parler was taken down for different (political) reasons.
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding "religious freedom" >nd insisting "the free market" will take caof the issue.
I am not so sure about that. Libertarians are also usually all about freedom of sexual orientation, as in it is not the government's business to be in the bedroom.
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IMO Twitter and Facebook and friends are a similar case. They are free to set e ToS they want and users are free to leave if
those ToS are used to supress political opinions in an undue manner. In fact, at I find worrysome is that Internet users
haven't the will or desire to do just that and put a bit of a fight (just like
ays put a fight).
Re: Re: Social media shows th
In this case "The Free Market" is taking care of the Parler issue.
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By: Boraxman to DaiTengu on
Fri Jan 15 2021 01:46 am
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding
"religious freedom" and insisting "the free market" will take care
of the issue.
In this case "The Free Market" is taking care of the Parler issue.
This is why I really dislike Libertarians. For years and years they argued free market, and squealed like stuck pigs the moment their ideology was used against them.
I enjoy pointing out hypocrisy and watching people attempt to rationalize/justify it. The mental hurdles they go through are amazing.
I really, really oppose what Big Tech is doing, but I must admit there is a tiny silver lining, in seeing all these Right Libertarians get burned by their own ideas.
On one hand, I don't think the people who were calling for Mike Pence
to be hung, or were actively inside the US Capitol, looking for
government officials to physically attack should have a platform
anywhere. Nor should neo-nazis, or those who spout racist and/or
facist ideologies designed to encourage others to violence.
On the other hand, I'm hearing people are getting caught up in the bans just by virtue of who they followed or interacted with on those
platforms.
Granted, if you're whining because you lost 3/4 of your followers on Twitter during their purge, maybe you should re-examine your life.
DaiTengu
In any case, as far as I am aware, Parler was actually enforcing anti-violence rules - some people got posts deleted and such - which leads to me believe Parler was taken down for different (political) reasons.
Libertarians were definitely up in arms over it, demanding "religious
freedom" nd insisting "the free market" will take care of the issue.
I am not so sure about that. Libertarians are also usually all about freedom of sexual orientation, as in it is not the government's business to be in the bedroom.
Re: Re: Social media shows th
By: Arelor to DaiTengu on Fri Jan 15 2021 12:55 pm
In any case, as far as I am aware, Parler was actually enforcing anti-violence
rules - some people got posts deleted and such - which leads to me believe Par
was taken down for different (political) reasons.
There's a wonderful archive of posts that were on Parler, pulled directly from the
API just before AWS cut them off. Discussions about attacks are there. as well as
hate speech (something not protected by the first amendment), and other things that
violate AWS's Terms of Service, as well as Apple and Google's.
DaiTengu
... Humour is emotional chaos remembered in tranquillity.
most of the Libertarians I've run across are really hard-right conservatives t
t claim they're Libertarian until someone else does something they don't like,
nd they have to run to the Government to solve the issue for them.
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By: Arelor to DaiTengu on
Fri Jan 15 2021 12:55 pm
In any case, as far as I am aware, Parler was actually enforcing anti-violence rules - some people got posts deleted and such - which leads to me believe Parler was taken down for different (political) reasons.
There's a wonderful archive of posts that were on Parler, pulled
directly from their API just before AWS cut them off. Discussions
about attacks are there. as well as hate speech (something not
protected by the first amendment), and other things that violate AWS's Terms of Service, as well as Apple and Google's.
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most of the Libertarians I've run across are really hard-right conservatives
t claim they're Libertarian until someone else does something they don'tlike,
nd they have to run to the Government to solve the issue for them.
OK, I will give that to you. I call them "Libertarians." I once got
into it with a supposed "Libertarian" about law enforcement. My belief
is that it is the government's job to provide certain protections and infrastructure. That jibes with the published views of the Libertarian Party.
They, OTOH, believed that police were bad. If I was still in contact
with them, I would suspect they'd be right on with defunding the
police. They were not in favor of replacing them with private cops, either.
They thought there should be no law enforcement. Basically they were anarchists.
I don't know about the USA (I suspect its not that different), but in Australia
police were making criminals out of old ladies that were just sitting on a park
bench, assaulting people without masks. The problem with the police, is that >they WILL enforce bad laws. They WILL ruin your life, just because some >idiotic politician has decided what you do should be illegal. In the UK, they >police "Thought Crimes" and will come after you just because someone in >government hasn't like that you've said what you've said.
So no, I have come around to the Libertarian side on this. People that uphold >bad laws are bad people. Police do it without question.
That may happen in some cities here, but it is not happening in my area
i.e. people without masks in parks and "thought crimes." Some leftist
might get you "cancelled" for "thought crimes" but the cops don't generally arrest/ticket for those until your thoughts
become actions.
That may happen in some cities here, but it is not happening in my area i.e. people without masks in parks and "thought crimes." Some leftist might get you "cancelled" for "thought crimes" but the cops don't generallyrrest/ticket for those until your thoughts
become actions.
Can we all agree that authoritarian leftists and rightists that would arrest s
eone for saying a word are all equally retarded?
So anyone who can be called a racist, should be denied the ability to speak? I am uncomfortable with this. Simply pointing out in Australia that
perhaps the immigration rate was set to high, *DOES* lead you to being called a Xenophobe and Racist. So there should be no discussion about this? The government and vested interest groups who want to screw us over get to spout their nonsense with no opposition?
This is the problem when you start to put in exceptions to free speech. Where do you draw the line? WHO draws the line? Someone will call me a racist simply for following, or quoting, someone who might disagree with a Leftist opinion on opening the borders to all and sundry.
OK, I will give that to you. I call them "Libertarians." I once got into it with a supposed "Libertarian" about law enforcement. My belief is that it is the government's job to provide certain protections and infrastructure. That jibes with the published views of the Libertarian Party.
They, OTOH, believed that police were bad. If I was still in contact with them, I would suspect they'd be right on with defunding the police. They were not in favor of replacing them with private cops, either.
They thought there should be no law enforcement. Basically they were anarchists.
They thought there should be no law enforcement. Basically they were anarchists.
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Re: Re: Social media shows th
By: Boraxman to DaiTengu on
Sun Jan 17 2021 02:22 pm
So anyone who can be called a racist, should be denied the ability to speak? I am uncomfortable with this. Simply pointing out in Australia that
Are they being imprisoned for what they're saying? No one is
forcefully duct-taping their mouth shut, right?
No one is being denied the right to speak. They're simply being banned from a really big BBS because the Sysop doesn't want to be associated
with what they're saying.
perhaps the immigration rate was set to high, *DOES* lead you to being called a Xenophobe and Racist. So there should be no discussion about this? The government and vested interest groups who want to screw us over get to spout their nonsense with no opposition?
There's been a pretty bad knee-jerk reaction as of late, and companies like Facebook and Twitter are banning some people that might not
deserve it, but flew a little too close to the sun. You can blame
those who did deserve it for that. Regardless, Twitter and Facebook
both have the right to prevent people from using their platform.
This is the problem when you start to put in exceptions to free speech. Where do you draw the line? WHO draws the line? Someone will call me a racist simply for following, or quoting, someone who might disagree with a Leftist opinion on opening the borders to all and sundry.
Facebook and Twitter are not government platforms. No one is being
locked up for saying what they're saying. People are capable of going elsewhere to spout their shitty opinions.
For instance, I will happily kick someone out of my house if they're being a racist edgelord. I'm not preventing them from speaking, I'm
just preventing them from speaking in my house. It's really no
different.
Facebook and Twitter are not government platforms. No one
is being locked up for saying what they're saying. People
are capable of going elsewhere to spout their shitty opinions.
hard-line Libertarians want everything privatized, and run
through capitalism. Libertarianism is more an economic policy
than a governmental one.
I really hate the "defund the police" term. It's awful, andcompletely > takes away from what the people who coined it want to do.
What the "defund the police" people would like to see, is the role of
Police moved back to the "serve & protect" mantra. They shouldn't be
trying to talk a suicidal person from jumping off a bridge.
They shouldn't be capturing people with mental-health issues who may
have gotten lost, or wandered off from their homes/facilities.
There's been a pretty bad knee-jerk reaction as of late, and companies like Facebook and Twitter are banning some people th
might not deserve it, but flew a little too close to the sun. You can blame those who did deserve it for that. Regardless,
Twitter and Facebook both have the right to prevent people from using their platform.
No, but they aren't private ownership either. They are publicly traded companie given additional immunities from the government and those
should also come with additional conditions and responsibilities beyond just to their shareholders.
How do you feel about forcing a baker to bake a cake with a swaztika or gay couple on said cake?
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There's been a pretty bad knee-jerk reaction as of late, and companies
like Facebook and Twitter are banning some people th might not deserve
it, but flew a little too close to the sun. You can blame those who
did deserve it for that. Regardless, Twitter and Facebook both have
the right to prevent people from using their platform.
That is a lot like saying that, in a neighbourhood were playing rap is illegal, cops are justified in beating anybody with an Eminem t-shirt, because wearing a t-shirt is dangerously close to playing rap. And then telling us that we should blame rap-players instead of the cops.
How do you feel about forcing a baker to bake a cake with a swaztika
or gay couple on said cake?
--
I made that point earlier in the thread. Twitter/Facebook is a Christian bakery and Trump is a gay wedding cake.
I made that point earlier in the thread. Twitter/Facebook is a
Christian bakery and Trump is a gay wedding cake.
Man you Democrats are just nasty and bitter.
I saw crap like this from the left all over twitter, That's one reason I dumped twitter.
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By: Arelor to DaiTengu on
Thu Jan 28 2021 06:39 am
There's been a pretty bad knee-jerk reaction as of late, and companies
like Facebook and Twitter are banning some people th might not deserve
it, but flew a little too close to the sun. You can blame those who
did deserve it for that. Regardless, Twitter and Facebook both have
the right to prevent people from using their platform.
That is a lot like saying that, in a neighbourhood were playing rap is illegal, cops are justified in beating anybody with an Eminem t-shirt, because wearing a t-shirt is dangerously close to playing rap. And then telling us that we should blame rap-players instead of the cops.
I don't think I've ever seen a worse analogy to anything. Good job for that.
A: playing rap isn't illegal, except if it's breaking noise ordinances.
B: Cops aren't justified for beating anyone unless they are are a
danger to the police/others C: Police/Laws are government institutions where the constitution applies Facebook and Twitter are private organizations (No, "publicly traded" doesn't count.)
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By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on
Wed Jan 27 2021 05:40 pm
No, but they aren't private ownership either. They are publicly traded companie given additional immunities from the government and those
should also come with additional conditions and responsibilities beyond just to their shareholders.
How do you feel about forcing a baker to bake a cake with a swaztika or gay couple on said cake?
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I made that point earlier in the thread. Twitter/Facebook is a
Christian bakery and Trump is a gay wedding cake.
I made that point earlier in the thread. Twitter/Facebook is a
Christian bakery and Trump is a gay wedding cake.
Man you Democrats are just nasty and bitter.
I saw crap like this from the left all over twitter, That's one
reason I dumped twitter.
How so?
How so?
Saying for instance "Trump is a gay wedding cake"
Kathy Griffen holding a Severed bloody Trump Head, Stephan Colbert's Filthy Trump rant.
Modona Threatning to blow up the white house, The Wenches on the view, Johnny Depp saying when was the last time an actor assinated a president.
I could go on and on but you get the point.
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Worst thing is... Democrats are sore losers and sore winners.
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By: IB Joe to Denn on Thu Feb 04 2021 09:44 am
Worst thing is... Democrats are sore losers and sore winners.
I would like to disagree.
After Trump won the 2016 election, I made the statement, "I'm not a fan of him winning, but maybe he'll do something good for the country." This doesn't make me a sore loser, it demonstrates my desire for his success, which in turn is our success.
Saying for instance "Trump is a gay wedding cake"
Kathy Griffen holding a Severed bloody Trump Head, Stephan Colbert's
Filthy Trump rant.
Modona Threatning to blow up the white house, The Wenches on the
view, Johnny Depp saying when was the last time an actor assinated a
president. I could go on and on but you get the point.
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Worst thing is... Democrats are sore losers and sore winners.
If private organisations don't have to abide by the first amendment, you really don't have free speech, do you? I mean, if they mediate everything, then practically it is gone.
I made that point earlier in the thread. Twitter/Facebook is a
Christian bakery and Trump is a gay wedding cake.
Man you Democrats are just nasty and bitter.
I saw crap like this from the left all over twitter, That's one
reason I dumped twitter.
How so?
Saying for instance "Trump is a gay wedding cake"
Kathy Griffen holding a Severed bloody Trump Head, Stephan Colbert's Filthy Trump rant.
Modona Threatning to blow up the white house, The Wenches on the view, Johnny Depp saying when was the last time an actor assinated a president. I could go on and on but you get the point
Like I said they're just bitter, not only that they like to lie nonstop about the Russia Hoax and they all follow the DNC narrative that there
was no voter fraud when it was proven to be rampant fraud.
https://www.joecheated.com/ <- shows how they did it.
"Free Speech" Just means the government can't imprision you or punish you for what you say (within reason. For instance, you can't yell "fire!" in a crowded theater)
That's the limit of the US Constitution.
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that not apply?
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By: Boraxman to DaiTengu on
Wed Feb 03 2021 09:14 pm
If private organisations don't have to abide by the first amendment, you really don't have free speech, do you? I mean, if they mediate everything, then practically it is gone.
"Free Speech" Just means the government can't imprision you or punish
you for what you say (within reason. For instance, you can't yell
"fire!" in a crowded theater)
That's the limit of the US Constitution.
Like I said they're just bitter, not only that they like to lie
nonstop about the Russia Hoax and they all follow the DNC narrative
that there was no voter fraud when it was proven to be rampant
fraud.
https://www.joecheated.com/ <- shows how they did it.
I think we're living in a post constitutional time. It'll be interesting to see what the next couple of years will bring. My eldest daughter had sever questions about todays political and societal changes... All I could do was mail her a copy of 1984.
I'm thinking the best way around this is to unplug and move to the Dominican Republic and spend my last years on a beach not caring if I'm bad because I have white skin... or I'm racist... or a homophobe... or whatever other phobic group they want to cram me in because I'm a while heterosexual male that self identifies as a heterosexual male... with white skin...
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does
that not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
Democrats like to put everyone into catagories and sub catagories.
I worked with a man in his 50's that identified himself as a female, One day he told me he want's me to call him by the proper pronoun's
What he really meant is he wanted me to address him by improper pronoun's. If one has a penis the proper pronouns would be male pronouns.
The world has gone crazy.
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You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
First i've heard that also.
Maybe it played out on CNN for a week? just saying some of these leftist gag down everything they hear on CNN.
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Democrats like to put everyone into catagories and sub catagories.
I worked with a man in his 50's that identified himself as a female,
One day he told me he want's me to call him by the proper pronoun's
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But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
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But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
Who printed T-shirts? QANON? Skinheads? Neo Nazi's? who are "THEY"?
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that >> not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
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But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does
not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
It is interesting how those of us who are alleged supporters never
heard or saw any of this, but people who weren't know all about it.
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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Sat Feb 06 2021 08:37 am
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
Who printed T-shirts? QANON? Skinheads? Neo Nazi's? who are "THEY"?
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that >> not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
It is interesting how those of us who are alleged supporters never heard or saw any of this, but people who weren't know all about it.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
It is interesting how those of us who are alleged supporters never heard or saw any of this, but people who weren't know all about it.
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By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun Feb 07 2021 09:51 am
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
It is interesting how those of us who are alleged supporters never heard or saw any of this, but people who weren't know all about it.
You see what you want to see. I've seen them throughout town, on Amazon, Etsy, and other places, and if you do a YouTube search, you'll find them there.
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
Who printed T-shirts? QANON? Skinheads? Neo Nazi's? who are
"THEY"?
People who sold "Trump" merchandise. it was common at rallies.
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
Who printed T-shirts? QANON? Skinheads? Neo Nazi's? who are "THEY"?
GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR LOGIC!
ORANGE MAN BAD
Well I've never been to a Trump rally, so apparently you have?
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events with maga hats. if there's no trouble they will make it. ---
it's just as interesting as liberals showing up at trump protester events with >aga hats. if there's no trouble they will make it.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
It is interesting how those of us who are alleged supporters never heard or saw any of this, but people who weren't know all about it.
You see what you want to see. I've seen them throughout town, on Amazon, Etsy
and other places, and if you do a YouTube search, you'll find them there.
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
who is 'they'? the democrats pretending to be trump supporters for tv?
i never heard of fuck your feelings.
Why are you looking for them on Amazon or Etsy? I wouldn't be. As someone who would not be a prospective buyer, why would you be?
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By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Feb 06 2021 06:01 pm
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
who is 'they'? the democrats pretending to be trump supporters for tv?
i never heard of fuck your feelings.
Perhaps they mean "FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS" which is a phrase often said by Ben Shapiro? That's the only similar phrase I can think of.
someone who would not be a prospective buyer, why would you be?
The statement made to me was that the signs, banners, and shirts were never seen. There is video proof of their existence and use at rallies. I wanted to validate that the items could be purchased on Amazon, Etsy, and elsewhere.
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Re: Re: Social media shows th
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN
on Sat Feb 06 2021 06:01 pm
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
who is 'they'? the democrats pretending to be trump supporters for tv?
i never heard of fuck your feelings.
Perhaps they mean "FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS" which is a
phrase often said by Ben Shapiro? That's the only similar phrase I can think of.
Ben Shapiro comes accross as being "on the spectrum", so to speak. That statement, that facts don't care about feelings is a troubling one. Humans have this concept of decorum, of politness, and it is USUAL to hide facts, not point them out, in respect of other peoples dignity.
look then say "facts don't care about your feelings" if you don't want it discussed. ITs like when Ben was confronting Zoey Tur and kept harping on about how Caitlny (And Zoey) are genetically male. In Ben's mind this is like some new imposition, and he can't seem to comprehend that it is no big deal to just call her "she" and move on, that politeness is not delusion.
I think Conservatives need a bit more self-awareness of how they come accross.
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By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Feb 06 2021 06:01 pm
But .. what happened to the MAGA mantra of "Fuck your feelings" ? Does that not apply?
You're the first person I have ever heard express that.
THEY PRINTED T-SHIRTS THAT SAID "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS".
who is 'they'? the democrats pretending to be trump supporters for tv?
i never heard of fuck your feelings.
Perhaps they mean "FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS" which is a
phrase often said by Ben Shapiro? That's the only similar phrase I can think of.
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I think Conservatives need a bit more self-awareness of how they come accross.
people need more action and less bullshit.
was selling trump flags for 10$, biden flags for 20$. Just did a search and found a "fuck your feelings" flag from Ohio for 5$.
I think Conservatives need a bit more self-awareness of how they come accross.
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By: Boraxman to Andeddu on Tue Feb 09 2021 11:01 pm
Ben Shapiro comes accross as being "on the spectrum", so to speak. That statement, that facts don't care about feelings is a troubling one. Humans have this concept of decorum, of politness, and it is USUAL to hide facts, not point them out, in respect of other peoples dignity.
in the situations where he says this people are trying to bend the
truth or outright lie by making vague accusations.
look then say "facts don't care about your feelings" if you don't want it discussed. ITs like when Ben was confronting Zoey Tur and kept harping on about how Caitlny (And Zoey) are genetically male. In Ben's mind this is like some new imposition, and he can't seem to comprehend that it is no big deal to just call her "she" and move on, that politeness is not delusion.
so are you saying shapiro handled that wrong? because "hanna zoey tur" grabbed him and threatened him.
trans people have mental disorders and they need treatment. they have a high suicide rate and often regret their operations. they have a
gender identity disorder. we shouldnt play into their bullshit. i'm
not say be mean to them but i'm not going to play their game.
I think Conservatives need a bit more self-awareness of how they come accross.
people need more action and less bullshit.
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By: Boraxman to Andeddu on
Tue Feb 09 2021 11:01 pm
I think Conservatives need a bit more self-awareness of how they come accross.
I'm going to point out one of their t-shirts and posters, "Fuck Your Feelings!"
They simply don't care. The traditional conservative agenda is
protection of self not that of others. Sadly, they're demonstrating
that they do have feelings when their "Great Leader" fairly and legally lost the election.
grabbed him and threatened him.
That physical action wasn't right, I agree.
high suicide rate and often regret their operations. they have a gender identity disorder. we shouldnt play into their bullshit. i'm not say be mean to them but i'm not going to play their game.
I do realise there are many toxic SJW's, and some of these fringe ideas, such as removing gendered language, replacing "Woman" with "birthing parent", etc, are deplorable. SJW's on the most part, are bad faith actors.
Self-delusion happens all the time, on a daily basis. We pretend that X is really Y all the time just to keep the system going.
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By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Feb 11 2021 04:04 am
grabbed him and threatened him.
That physical action wasn't right, I agree.
that is not a physical action; that is a physical assault. if someone grabbed me in that manner it would be a precursor for a fight.
high suicide rate and often regret their operations. they have a gender identity disorder. we shouldnt play into their bullshit. i'm not say be mean to them but i'm not going to play their game.
I do realise there are many toxic SJW's, and some of these fringe ideas, such as removing gendered language, replacing "Woman" with "birthing parent", etc, are deplorable. SJW's on the most part, are bad faith actors.
Self-delusion happens all the time, on a daily basis. We pretend that X is really Y all the time just to keep the system going.
we really need to help these people. i'm concerned. we shouldnt be enablers to their mental illness. there's a high suicide rate. we are turning it into something it's not. ---
Its a tough one, because saying the wrong thing can cost you your job in thi authoritarian, PC theocracy.
Re: Re: Social media shows th
By: Boraxman to MRO on Sat Feb 13 2021 12:37 am
Its a tough one, because saying the wrong thing can cost you your job in authoritarian, PC theocracy.
I guess somebody is going to say you are over dramatizing, so let's just thr some piece of news here to back your affirmation (if you don't mind)
http://www.manlymovie.net/2021/02/carano-firing-exposes-obscene-double-stand s.html
"Gina Carano has been fired from The Mandalorian [...] Lucasfilm announced t evening that the actress is no longer employed by the studio, nor do they ha plans to work with her in the future. This comes in the wake of some Instagr posts Carano made earlier on Wednesday (which have now been deleted), one of which was a re-post from a different Instagram account comparing the plight being a conservative actor in Hollywood to being Jewish during the holocaust
--
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By: Arelor to Boraxman on Fri Feb 12 2021 01:34 pm
Re: Re: Social media shows th
By: Boraxman to MRO on Sat Feb 13 2021 12:37 am
Its a tough one, because saying the wrong thing can cost you your job in authoritarian, PC theocracy.
I guess somebody is going to say you are over dramatizing, so let's just thr some piece of news here to back your affirmation (i
you don't mind)
http://www.manlymovie.net/2021/02/carano-firing-exposes-obscene-double-stand s.html
"Gina Carano has been fired from The Mandalorian [...] Lucasfilm announced t evening that the actress is no longer employed by t
studio, nor do they ha plans to work with her in the future. This comes in the wake of some Instagr posts Carano made earlier on
Wednesday (which have now been deleted), one of which was a re-post from a different Instagram account comparing the plight bei
a conservative actor in Hollywood to being Jewish during the holocaust
--
gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
The media just had to spin it, didn't they. She didn't compare being a conserv ative in Hollywood to being Jewish during the
holocaust. She was just saying that there were similar patterns in motivation. That is a different thing.
I heard someone say that we should consider Established Media the way we consider the Tobacco Lobby these days, and he wasn't wrong
They truly are gutter dwelling trash.
The media just had to spin it, didn't they. She didn't compare being a conserv
ative in Hollywood to being Jewish during the holocaust. She was just saying >that there were similar patterns in motivation. That is a different thing.
The media just had to spin it, didn't they. She didn't compare being a conserv
ative in Hollywood to being Jewish during the holocaust. She was just saying >that there were similar patterns in motivation. That is a different thing.
What she actually said, if the source I read can be trusted, was that the Nazis convinced the non-Jewish public that the Jews were bad first, which then caused some of the public to do their dirty work for them. I would
add that it also made it easier for the Nazis to do the rest of their dirty work later without as many non-Jews putting up resistance.
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By: Boraxman to Arelor on
Sat Feb 13 2021 10:57 pm
Re: Re: Social media shows th
By: Arelor to Boraxman on Fri Feb 12 2021 01:34 pm
Re: Re: Social media shows th
By: Boraxman to MRO on Sat Feb 13 2021 12:37 am
Its a tough one, because saying the wrong thing can cost you your job
n authoritarian, PC theocracy.t
I guess somebody is going to say you are over dramatizing, so let's just
hr some piece of news here to back your affirmation (i
you don't mind)
nd s.htmlannounced
"Gina Carano has been fired from The Mandalorian [...] Lucasfilm
t evening that the actress is no longer employed by tin
studio, nor do they ha plans to work with her in the future. This comes
the wake of some Instagr posts Carano made earlier ona
Wednesday (which have now been deleted), one of which was a re-post from
different Instagram account comparing the plight bei
a conservative actor in Hollywood to being Jewish during the holocaust
--
gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
The media just had to spin it, didn't they. She didn't compare being aconse
rv ative in Hollywood to being Jewish during themotivatio
holocaust. She was just saying that there were similar patterns in
n. That is a different thing.
I heard someone say that we should consider Established Media the way wecons
ider the Tobacco Lobby these days, and he wasn't wrong
They truly are gutter dwelling trash.
Relatedly, Gina has been recently hired to appear in some e film so her career is far from over :-)
"Carano says: "I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. I have only
just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I
hope it inspires others to do the same. They can't cancel us if we
don't let them."
http://www.manlymovie.net/2021/02/news-eddie-murphy-new-carano-movie-fac e-off-2.html
Frankly, I am growing increasingly disgusting at Disney and its
subsidiary films.
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The media just had to spin it, didn't they. She didn't compare being a conserv
ative in Hollywood to being Jewish during the holocaust. She was just saying
that there were similar patterns in motivation. That is a different thing.
What she actually said, if the source I read can be trusted, was that
the Nazis convinced the non-Jewish public that the Jews were bad first, which then caused some of the public to do their dirty work for them.
I would add that it also made it easier for the Nazis to do the rest of their dirty work later without as many non-Jews putting up resistance.
Her comparision was between the Nazi-run press of the 1930's and the leftist-run US press of today. Both demonize/ed types of people in
order to sway public opinion against those types of people. There is little doubt that is going on here now. We need to watch out for what could come next.
There is another aspect, and that is the importance of the mission. Communism >and Nazism made it as if there a massive existential threat. That we were at a
crossroads, and the fate of humanity hung in the balance. They didn't just >make out Jews to be troublesome, the SURVIVAL of the nation was at stake. Look
at how leftists talk of this supposed bigotry causing genocide. They make out >as if right wing views are killing people by the thousands, and imperiling us >all. This drives justification, an urgency, it makes taking a life the lesser >evil.
Time and time again I see rhetoric which would easily justify murder later on, >and its a worry, it really is.
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There is another aspect, and that is the importance of the mission. Communism
and Nazism made it as if there a massive existential threat. That we were at a
crossroads, and the fate of humanity hung in the balance. They didn't just
make out Jews to be troublesome, the SURVIVAL of the nation was at stake. Look
at how leftists talk of this supposed bigotry causing genocide. They make out
as if right wing views are killing people by the thousands, and imperiling us
all. This drives justification, an urgency, it makes taking a life the lesser
evil.
Time and time again I see rhetoric which would easily justify murder later on,
and its a worry, it really is.
Agreed. Maybe not at this minute but if we ever swerve too far left, towards communism or some other collective "greater good" path, there
will be trouble for those who do not comply.
This is part of why I think conservatives are losing, many are still fighting the ideological war of the 1940s and 1950s, and are obsolete.
Woke activists aren't really concerned about this.
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