Ennev wrote to All <=-
The Twit show will become a shit show?
Twitter board agrees to $44bn takeovers by Elon Musk
I don't actually care, don't use it and don't need it.
Yeah, I took it in the first year, then never really used it. I never got it where a minimalistic interface felt like the 1970s and still is.
It is just sad that eventually, it replaced RSS for many people and sadly, for some, this is where they get their news.
Recently I only use it when there is a service outage to see if I'm the only one experiencing it.
That is definitely my primary use for Twitter. If a road is closed, or there is snow, or there's a power or service interruption, I definitely can see other people complaining way before I do, and at least then I know that it's not just me!
Yes, its purpose is really for complaining or hearing people complain :-)
That is definitely my primary use for Twitter. If a road is closed, or there is snow, or there's a power or service interruption, I definitely can see other people complaining way before I do, and at least then I know that it's not just me!
Yes, its purpose is really for complaining or hearing people complain :-)
Yes, its purpose is really for complaining or hearing people complain :-)
It shows how hard they were silencing one group of people.
Don't forget the neverending drama that influencer culture produces, too! ;- -=- Kaelon -=-
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Denn to Ennev on Mon May 02 2022 01:20 am
It shows how hard they were silencing one group of people.
Social Media is a racket, and it's sad that so many people have been brain-washed by the dopamine-boost that is "follower engagement." The old adage, that if you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold, hold ever-true.
I'm genuinely hopeful that the realization of the mass-commoditization of people, the rampant censorship, the hyper-commercialized algorithms, and the psychologically-destructive and emotionally and socially disruptive experien that is Twitter, Facebook, etc., drives a permanent shift of people away fro these platforms back to systems that they truly own: their own, and perhaps, systems like ours, the BBS'es of old.
_____
-=: Kaelon :=-
Does Twitter do anything for professional Influencers these days?
Seriously, I may turn the TV set once or twice per year in order to follow very specific events, and each time I do, it looks so much more dumb than the last time. Dumb and manipulative. People who watched TV every day does not realize because the dumbing down is progressive, but if you check every 6 months you can say the difference gets HUGE overtime.
I think people only realizes how fucked up it is once they step out for a while and one day try to go back in. Like TV.
Seriously, I may turn the TV set once or twice per year in order to follow very specific events, and each time I do, it looks so much more dumb than the last time. Dumb and manipulative. People who watched TV every day does not realize because the dumbing down is progressive, but if you check every 6 months you can say the difference gets HUGE overtime.
i dunno. i love to complain but i dont use twitter much.
Does Twitter do anything for professional Influencers these days?
Not at all surprised that your dad is happier now that he's off of the news.
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I never relied on Twitter or other social platforms for news.
News about Australia from a guy in a basement in Belgium?
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I never relied on Twitter or other social platforms for news.
News about Australia from a guy in a basement in Belgium?
I don't use Twitter much, but I use Facebook and Reddit. If anyone posts news there, it's usually not their own original news reporting, but rather links to news articles I might not have seen otherwise.
I don't use Twitter much, but I use Facebook and Reddit. If anyone posts news there, it's usually not their own original news reporting, but rather links to news articles I might not have seen otherwise.
i dunno. i love to complain but i dont use twitter much.
Because you're a pro :-) on Twitter, it's too easy.
i was raised by women so like every second of my life is complaining.
It's getting harder and harder with deep fakes etc. It's going to be next to impossible in the near future to distinguish a fake video from a real one.
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Ennev to Nightfox on Mon May 02 2022 09:39 pm
It's getting harder and harder with deep fakes etc. It's going to be next to impossible in the near future to distinguish a fake video from a real one.
That's one thing I'm worried about. With deep fakes being easily believable, it will be easier for people to spread fake news.
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Ennev to Nightfox on Mon May 02 2022 09:39 pm
It's getting harder and harder with deep fakes etc. It's going to be next to
impossible in the near future to distinguish a fake video from a real one.
That's one thing I'm worried about. With deep fakes being easily believable, it wi
be easier for people to spread fake news.
Nightfox
That's one thing I'm worried about. With deep fakes being easily believable, it will be easier for people to spread fake news.
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Arelor to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 12:06 pm
I think people only realizes how fucked up it is once they step out for a while and one day try to go back in. Like TV.
Seriously, I may turn the TV set once or twice per year in order to follo very specific events, and each time I do, it looks so much more dumb than the last time. Dumb and manipulative. People who watched TV every day doe not realize because the dumbing down is progressive, but if you check eve 6 months you can say the difference gets HUGE overtime.
i cant get anything done if i dont watch mah honey boo boo reruns and 90 day
I don't use Twitter much, but I use Facebook and Reddit. If anyone posts news there, it's usually not their own original news reporting, but rathe links to news articles I might not have seen otherwise.
Yeah, but you have to be worried about these links sometimes, usually, I usually
check if the news is corroborated but a different news source. But the trap also
sometimes it's exactly the same copy-paste text at the other place.
It's getting harder and harder with deep fakes etc. It's going to be next to impossible in the near future to distinguish a fake video from a real one. L the movie "Black Rain" we are here now.
My mistake, the movie was "Rising Sun"
Deep Fake reminds me of when I read 1984 in high school. Imagine if the news media went back in their archives to edit old footage or create replacement archive footage? Any video recorded would require a checksum to verify it hasn't been altered
Yes, it's known that some movies get scenes removed, especially from one market to another. For example, in China scenes are removed, sometimes they even shoot scenes for the Chinese movie and others for the rest of the world.
That's the thing with our nice streaming world now, the movie you watched yesterday might not be exactly the movie you watched today.
Also, we know the movies disappear from the streaming platform as soon as one of the actors in them gets in trouble. Cancel culture is literal. I guess soon with Deep fakes they'll just replace the actor.
That's the thing with our nice streaming world now, the movie you watched yesterday might not be exactly the movie you watched today.
At least with physical format what you have stays the same. The best example is Star Wars episode 4, how many versions of that movie exist?
At least with physical format what you have stays the same. The best example is Star Wars episode 4, how many versions of that movie exist?
Episodes 5 and 6 as well.. There have been lots of changes to those, but not because anyone did anything wrong, it was because George Lucas seemed to feel like he couldn't stop messing with them.
It shows how hard they were silencing one group of people.
Social Media is a racket, and it's sad that so many people have been brain-washed by the dopamine-boost that is "follower engagement." The old
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Nightfox to Ennev on Tue May 03 2022 09:19 am
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Ennev to Nightfox on Mon May 02 2022 09:39 pm
It's getting harder and harder with deep fakes etc. It's going to be next to impossible in the near future to distinguish a fake video fr a real one.
That's one thing I'm worried about. With deep fakes being easily believable, it will be easier for people to spread fake news.
the guy that was doing final destination movies does tom cruise deep fakes. his hair and body and voice match perfectly. i'm not sure if i said this he
https://www.today.com/news/man-tom-cruise-deepfakes-tiktok-speaks-ethics-tec https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2auw6b3
Deep Fake reminds me of when I read 1984 in high school. Imagine if the news media went back in their archives to edit old footage or create replacement archive footage? Any video recorded would require a checksum verify it hasn't been altered
Yes, it's known that some movies get scenes removed, especially from one mar to another. For example, in China scenes are removed, sometimes they even sh scenes for the Chinese movie and others for the rest of the world.
Also, we know the movies disappear from the streaming platform as soon as on of the actors in them gets in trouble. Cancel culture is literal. I guess so with Deep fakes they'll just replace the actor.
That's the thing with our nice streaming world now, the movie you watched yesterday might not be exactly the movie you watched today.
At least with physical format what you have stays the same. The best example Star Wars episode 4, how many versions of that movie exist?
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Ennev to Moondog on Tue May 03 2022 05:59 pm
Also, we know the movies disappear from the streaming platform as soon one of the actors in them gets in trouble. Cancel culture is literal. I guess soon with Deep fakes they'll just replace the actor.
That's the thing with our nice streaming world now, the movie you watch yesterday might not be exactly the movie you watched today.
That's one reason I still like to buy my own physical copies of movies & sho
At least with physical format what you have stays the same. The best example is Star Wars episode 4, how many versions of that movie exist?
Episodes 5 and 6 as well.. There have been lots of changes to those, but no
Nightfox
Re: Media (was Twitter)
By: Nightfox to Ennev on Tue May 03 2022 03:31 pm
At least with physical format what you have stays the same. The best example is Star Wars episode 4, how many versions of that movie exis
Episodes 5 and 6 as well.. There have been lots of changes to those, but not because anyone did anything wrong, it was because George Lucas seemed feel like he couldn't stop messing with them.
The greatest crime was adding to the ambiguity in Episode 4 that, without a _____
-=: Kaelon :=-
In the second season of the Mandalorian they de-aged Mark Hammill to play the younger Luke. His facial geometry changed since then, so it wasn't perfect.
This is why I download unedited original versions of everything that I like and then put it on my Plex Server at home. It's a nightmare to confront the reality that you no longer own anything, you're just renting it. Unacceptable, in my view.
Deep Fake reminds me of when I read 1984 in high school. Imagine if the news media went back in their archives to edit old footage or create replacement archive footage? Any video recorded would require a checksum to verify it hasn't been altered
Speaking of regional edits, there is a scene early in the Catain America Winter where Falcon tells Steve to add a soundtrack to his list of things to hear and watch. The next scene is him writing it down in a notebook of other things to read or hear. Depending on which country or region, the list shown reflects the pop culture of that region.
I bought the box set on VHS before the re-showing of the "enhanced" films appeared in theaters. When sitting in the theater, severl people freaked out when Han did not shoot first. Lucas explained that his kids were confused by Han shooting first, because he is a good guy. He could've explained he
created that scene to create the impression this guy may not be as good as they think.
Just mentioned this in my last reply. Lucas was looking at the re-edits from the view of a dad rather than that of a kid, and create less of a doubt that Han is a good guy. At that point in the film we're supposed to think he's a p irate not to be trusted.
I bought the box set on VHS before the re-showing of the "enhanced" films appeared in theaters. When sitting in the theater, severl people freaked out when Han did not shoot first. Lucas explained that his kids were confused by Han shooting first, because he is a good guy. He could've explained he created that scene to create the impression this guy may not be as good as they think.
In the second season of the Mandalorian they de-aged Mark Hammill to play the younger Luke. His facial geometry changed since then, so it wasn't perfect. In the Book of Boba Fett they used a stand in and deepfaked his face, and used a special voice changing AI to match his younger voice. The fake looked better than the original.
I bought the box set on VHS before the re-showing of the "enhanced" films appeared in theaters. When sitting in the theater, severl people freaked out when Han did not shoot first. Lucas explained that his kids were confused by Han shooting first, because he is a good guy. He could've explained he
created that scene to create the impression this guy may not be as good a they think.
It's a weird concept of "good guys." You know the guy in front of you is the to kill you, so what are you going to do? Let him shoot first in a gunfight? saw the original in theatre (I'm that old) and didn't have an issue with tha
And also I see it as an allegory of redemption. That you can in your life do sketchy and bad things and turn around and do good. In our cancel culture, i seems not impossible for someone to change and improve. What does it mean th "learning from our mistakes" if you're not allowed any?
Just mentioned this in my last reply. Lucas was looking at the re-edits from the view of a dad rather than that of a kid, and create less of a do that Han is a good guy. At that point in the film we're supposed to thin he's a p irate not to be trusted.
I think somehow it was less simplistic and more real to have a character tha was "acting badly" because of the circumstances. You live in an oppressive society governed by an evil regime crushing your life and dream.
Sometimes in order to survive, you have to do reprehensible things.
again I'll quote doctor who:
Sometimes The Only Choices You Have Are Bad ones, but still, you have to choose.
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed May 04 2022 12:05 am
In the second season of the Mandalorian they de-aged Mark Hammill to pl the younger Luke. His facial geometry changed since then, so it wasn't perfect. In the Book of Boba Fett they used a stand in and deepfaked hi face, and used a special voice changing AI to match his younger voice. fake looked better than the original.
Is de-aging a different process from making a deepfake? I had assumed both
Nightfox
Moondog wrote to Kaelon <=-
less of a doubt that Han is a good guy. At that point in the film
we're supposed to think he's a pirate not to be trusted.
Moondog wrote to Ennev <=-
Speaking of regional edits, there is a scene early in the Catain
America Winter where Falcon tells Steve to add a soundtrack to his list
of things to hear and watch. The next scene is him writing it down in
a notebook of other things to read or hear. Depending on which country
or region, the list shown reflects the pop culture of that region.
Ennev wrote to Moondog <=-
I think somehow it was less simplistic and more real to have a
character that was "acting badly" because of the circumstances. You
live in an oppressive society governed by an evil regime crushing your life and dream.
Sometimes in order to survive, you have to do reprehensible things.
Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
In the second season of the Mandalorian they de-aged Mark Hammill to play the younger Luke. His facial geometry changed since then, so it wasn't perfect. In the Book of Boba Fett they used a stand in and deepfaked his face, and used a special voice changing AI to match his younger voice. The fake looked better than the original.
For most of the 20th century, we lived in an age where you could believe images, still, they were airbrushing and manipulating photographs, but it wa easier to spot. These days are over.
Yes, it's known that some movies get scenes removed, especially from one mar to another. For example, in China scenes are removed, sometimes they even sh scenes for the Chinese movie and others for the rest of the world.
Who would win in a gunfight - Malcolm Reynolds or Han Solo? :)
Something people often forget is that you can manipulate the meaning of images without rigging the image itself. You just manipulate the context.
Thankfuly, the Internet facilitates finding digital transfers of the films that survived the onslaught.
Moondog wrote to Kaelon <=-
less of a doubt that Han is a good guy. At that point in the film we're supposed to think he's a pirate not to be trusted.
I thought that Han shooting first helped contrast his redemption in
the end.
... Go outside. Shut the door.
Moondog wrote to Ennev <=-
Speaking of regional edits, there is a scene early in the Catain America Winter where Falcon tells Steve to add a soundtrack to his list of things to hear and watch. The next scene is him writing it down in a notebook of other things to read or hear. Depending on which country or region, the list shown reflects the pop culture of that region.
Oh, that's interesting. I'll have to hit the web and see if someone
has compiled all of the lists.
... Go outside. Shut the door.
Ennev wrote to Moondog <=-
I think somehow it was less simplistic and more real to have a character that was "acting badly" because of the circumstances. You live in an oppressive society governed by an evil regime crushing your life and dream.
Sometimes in order to survive, you have to do reprehensible things.
Who would win in a gunfight - Malcolm Reynolds or Han Solo? :)
... Consider different fading systems
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Ennev to Nightfox on Tue May 03 2022 01:44 pm
For most of the 20th century, we lived in an age where you could believe images, still, they were airbrushing and manipulating photographs, but it easier to spot. These days are over.
Something people often forget is that you can manipulate the meaning of imag without rigging the image itself. You just manipulate the context.
Any news agency can pick an old clip from the archives of a guy beating anot guy and attatch any headline to it. That's very useful when you want to sell particular sort of story. If your magazine is selling fear from dogs, you ju get a picture of a dog attacking some guy and forget to mention the dog is defending an old lady from a mugger.
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Arelor wrote to Ennev <=-
Any news agency can pick an old clip from the archives of a guy beating another guy and attatch any headline to it. That's very useful when you want to sell a particular sort of story. If your magazine is selling
fear from dogs, you just get a picture of a dog attacking some guy and forget to mention the dog is defending an old lady from a mugger.
Ennev wrote to Arelor <=-
Something people often forget is that you can manipulate the meaning of images without rigging the image itself. You just manipulate the context.
Yes, it's used a lot. You show a mob of people rioting, saying it was
from Toronto, and after research, they find that the footage was from 5 years ago in Berlin etc.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Mal has shoved people into running engines and shot people in the head beofre they finished completing sentences. Tough call. Both are not
afraid to resort to sudden violence.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Mal has shoved people into running engines and shot people in the head beofre they finished completing sentences. Tough call. Both are not afraid to resort to sudden violence.
There was a scene in The Walking Dead (a couple, actually) where Rick
goes from sizing someone up, being polite and non-confrontational, to
shooting one person, point-blank, shooting him again, and then
shooting his partner before he had a chance to react.
That level of decisive action is pretty shocking.
... Fifty Quatloos on the newcomer!
Image search is something every skeptical mind needs to be able to do.
Thankfuly, the Internet facilitates finding digital transfers of the films that
survived the onslaught.
Yes, we have to be tankful of that and project the archive.org
Arelor wrote to Ennev <=-
Archive.org is quite neat.
There are, however, commercial websites collecting old reels and then selling restorations of old movies. Also, plenty warez sites which coindidentially have lots of public domain movies from the silent era
too available.
I'm not sure what happened here, but OMNI magazine (one of my favorite magazines as a kid) was on archive.org, but recently disappeared off
of archive.org and re-appeared on Amazon for sale.
Weird, I guess you should always download everything you can, one can never know when it will disappear.
What I've been meaning to do is bring my RAID array to work and set up cloud sync - let the first sync happen on my office's unlimited 600/600 network connection. :)
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Ennev to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 10 2022 11:41 am
Weird, I guess you should always download everything you can, one can ne know when it will disappear.
There's a reddit group called /r/datahoarders that's all about people snarfi up everything they can and filling up drives. I have a 7.2 TB RAID array and 10GB external I should fill up. :)
What I've been meaning to do is bring my RAID array to work and set up cloud sync - let the first sync happen on my office's unlimited 600/600 network connection. :)
10GB external? That is small by todays standards.
Moondog wrote to Kaelon <=-
less of a doubt that Han is a good guy. At that point in the film we're supposed to think he's a pirate not to be trusted.
I thought that Han shooting first helped contrast his redemption in
the end.
goes from sizing someone up, being polite and non-confrontational, to
shooting one person, point-blank, shooting him again, and then
shooting his partner before he had a chance to react.
That level of decisive action is pretty shocking.
... Fifty Quatloos on the newcomer!
Being civil isn't a sign of weakness, and doesn't imply a person is incapable of great violence. Being polite is a preference.
Re: Re: Twitter
By: Ennev to Arelor on Thu May 05 2022 11:49 am
Thankfuly, the Internet facilitates finding digital transfers of the films that survived the onslaught.
Yes, we have to be tankful of that and project the archive.org
Archive.org is quite neat.
There are, however, commercial websites collecting old reels and then selling restorations of old movies. Also, plenty warez sites which coindidentially have lots of public domain movies from the silent era too available.
Arelor wrote to Ennev <=-
Archive.org is quite neat.
There are, however, commercial websites collecting old reels and then selling restorations of old movies. Also, plenty warez sites which coindidentially have lots of public domain movies from the silent era too available.
I'm not sure what happened here, but OMNI magazine (one of my favorite magazines as a kid) was on archive.org, but recently disappeared off
of archive.org and re-appeared on Amazon for sale.
... Is there something missing?
There's a reddit group called /r/datahoarders that's all about people snarfing up everything they can and filling up drives. I have a 7.2 TB RAID array and a 10GB external I should fill up. :
I'm not sure what happened here, but OMNI magazine (one of my favorite magazines as a kid) was on archive.org, but recently disappeared off
of archive.org and re-appeared on Amazon for sale.
Weird, I guess you should always download everything you can, one can never know when it will disappear.
I guess Archive.org got a take-down notice? For the few bucks they'll get on amazon :-/
Re: Re: Media (was Twitter)
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 08 2022 08:04 pm
goes from sizing someone up, being polite and non-confrontational, to
shooting one person, point-blank, shooting him again, and then
shooting his partner before he had a chance to react.
That level of decisive action is pretty shocking.
... Fifty Quatloos on the newcomer!
Being civil isn't a sign of weakness, and doesn't imply a person is incapable of great violence. Being polite is a preference.
he was just being smart and not showing his hand.
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