Well - a few weeks past my birthday and I finally have my gift to myself ordered. :-) A Heritage 22 Barkeep with 2" barrel. I opted for the model
with wood grips and the 'case hardened' look.

Acadamy had the best price at 139 but could never catch it in stock.
Local gun store could order one for about 175 (list is 180), so I waited
and waited for Acadamy. Finally Rural King got a restock and a 'special
buy' of 169, so I ordered (bird in the hand, right?).

Excited to get it in and do some metal ringing in the back yard. :-)




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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ALL <=-

Well - a few weeks past my birthday and I finally have my gift to
myself ordered. :-) A Heritage 22 Barkeep with 2" barrel. I opted for
the model with wood grips and the 'case hardened' look.

Acadamy had the best price at 139 but could never catch it in stock.
Local gun store could order one for about 175 (list is 180), so I
waited and waited for Acadamy. Finally Rural King got a restock and a 'special buy' of 169, so I ordered (bird in the hand, right?).

Excited to get it in and do some metal ringing in the back yard. :-)

And I got an email tonight that it is AT THE STORE and waiting for me
to come pick up! That was fast! :-)




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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ALL <=-

Well - a few weeks past my birthday and I finally have my gift to
myself ordered. :-) A Heritage 22 Barkeep with 2" barrel. I opted for
the model with wood grips and the 'case hardened' look.

Acadamy had the best price at 139 but could never catch it in stock.
Local gun store could order one for about 175 (list is 180), so I
waited and waited for Acadamy. Finally Rural King got a restock and a 'special buy' of 169, so I ordered (bird in the hand, right?).

Excited to get it in and do some metal ringing in the back yard. :-)

I think you'll enjoy it. Not bad on the price, either. I have several Heritage .22s. I'm not a huge fan of their sights, but hell, if I wanted a Single Six, I'd pay Single Six prices. The nice thing about the Heritage is that if you drop it off the 4 wheeler and into the mud you're not going to kick yourself in the ass about it all day long.

I know that kinda sounds like I'm bad-mouthing the Heritage Rough Riders, but I'm not. I'm also fond of the Hi-Point, as well as my Sundance A-25 as well as my Heritage. Yeah, I DO like my "cheap" guns. They're great fun to plink with, good and dependable enough to carry as a critter plinker, and the added benefit is that they're so damned inexpensive you can just buy as many as you want. Get used to that miserable front sight and you'll find that the gun will outshoot you all day long.
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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I think you'll enjoy it. Not bad on the price, either. I have several Heritage .22s. I'm not a huge fan of their sights, but hell, if I
wanted a Single Six, I'd pay Single Six prices. The nice thing about
the Heritage is that if you drop it off the 4 wheeler and into the mud you're not going to kick yourself in the ass about it all day long.

LOL - I understand! And yeah, I like to save as much as I can, but again
I've been wanting this, so... :-)

I have a Heritage my father in law gave me last year at this time for
my birthday. I was 'in the market' for a .22 single action and didn't
want to pay Single Six prices, so I was going back and forth on
buying the Heritage with a magnum cylinder or the Ruger Wrangler.
While I was deciding he pulled the Heritage out of his safe and gave
it to me. I shoot it mainly with the magnum cylinder. I bought some
IMOP grips for it right away.

Then a couple of weeks later we were in Rural King and they had two
Wranglers, so I got to see it and hold it. Bought the black one. LOL

I know that kinda sounds like I'm bad-mouthing the Heritage Rough
Riders, but I'm not. I'm also fond of the Hi-Point, as well as my

Doesn't sound like it to me, but I know what you mean... So many
'experts' out there that run down the 'cheap' stuff even if they
have never owned or even fired one! I've heard NOTHING but good
things from anyone that has ever OWNED a Hi-Point! I was in the
market for a PCC and was considering the .40 Hi-Point, but ended
up with the Sub-2000 from KelTec because it will fit in a backpack...
Got a 9mm, since I couldn't lay my hands on a .40, but it uses
Glock mags, so I have a lot of variety to choose from. :)

Sundance A-25 as well as my Heritage. Yeah, I DO like my "cheap" guns. They're great fun to plink with, good and dependable enough to carry as
a critter plinker, and the added benefit is that they're so damned inexpensive you can just buy as many as you want. Get used to that

Agreed! I am a musician too and though a guitar might be TOO cheap, as in
not a good neck or something, but MOST 'cheaper' guitars are great for
the beginner or the fire pit or whatever. :-)

I'm not familiar with the Sundance... Will have to gooogle that one...

miserable front sight and you'll find that the gun will outshoot you
all day long.

Isn't that the way with all of them? :-)



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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-

Doesn't sound like it to me, but I know what you mean... So many
'experts' out there that run down the 'cheap' stuff even if they
have never owned or even fired one! I've heard NOTHING but good
things from anyone that has ever OWNED a Hi-Point! I was in the
market for a PCC and was considering the .40 Hi-Point, but ended
up with the Sub-2000 from KelTec because it will fit in a backpack...
Got a 9mm, since I couldn't lay my hands on a .40, but it uses
Glock mags, so I have a lot of variety to choose from. :)

I've got two Hi-Points, the JHP pistol and the 4595 FGFL LAZ (as in normal carbine with add-on forward grip, light and laser). The're both fun to shoot. The pistol is heavy as sin, way too heavy for me to want to carry, and to tell the truth, I've got a bum shoulder that makes extended time with that gun a bit of a pain, but it DOES sit in my nightstand because if I need something to go BANG when I pull the trigger, that one has never let me down.

Sundance A-25 as well as my Heritage. Yeah, I DO like my "cheap" guns. They're great fun to plink with, good and dependable enough to carry as
a critter plinker, and the added benefit is that they're so damned inexpensive you can just buy as many as you want. Get used to that

Agreed! I am a musician too and though a guitar might be TOO cheap, as
in not a good neck or something, but MOST 'cheaper' guitars are great
for the beginner or the fire pit or whatever. :-)

I'm not familiar with the Sundance... Will have to gooogle that one...

The Sundance is one of those Ring of Fire guns, like the Jennings, Bryco and Pheonix. They made guns with alloy frames and inexpensive mechanisms, sold for like $75 brand new. There's not a niche market for them, I paid $125 for a .25 auto, nickel plated. Not a great gun, but it does what it was made to do, which is to put a functional firearm in the hands of someone who didn't have a lot of money to spend. Truth be told, that little $125 plinker is a hell of a lot easier for me to shoot than my $475 Colt 1908 (which I am now seeing at $800 at any gun show I go to).

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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I've got two Hi-Points, the JHP pistol and the 4595 FGFL LAZ (as in

That's the .45 carbine, right? I hear it's a smooth shooter! The extra
weight really helps with recoil and such...

The Sundance is one of those Ring of Fire guns, like the Jennings,
Bryco and Pheonix. They made guns with alloy frames and inexpensive mechanisms, sold for like $75 brand new. There's not a niche market
for them, I paid $125 for a .25 auto, nickel plated. Not a great gun,
but it does what it was made to do, which is to put a functional
firearm in the hands of someone who didn't have a lot of money to

Yep! Very cool!

spend. Truth be told, that little $125 plinker is a hell of a lot
easier for me to shoot than my $475 Colt 1908 (which I am now seeing at $800 at any gun show I go to).

Yeah, can you believe the prices today!?!?


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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-

I've got two Hi-Points, the JHP pistol and the 4595 FGFL LAZ (as in

That's the .45 carbine, right? I hear it's a smooth shooter! The extra weight really helps with recoil and such...

It's not as if the .45 ACP has that much recoil anyway. I mean, yeah, there are some handguns where the impulse is rather stout, but even in something as small as my PT-145, it's not bad at all. So yeah, that weight really soaks up the recoil and then on top of that, as if they really needed it, Hi-Point designed the Gen2 carbines with buffer springs in the butt pad. Yeah, they are nice to shoot. Also the pistol and the carbine use the same mage, which makes it a contender for a home defense ensemble.

spend. Truth be told, that little $125 plinker is a hell of a lot
easier for me to shoot than my $475 Colt 1908 (which I am now seeing at $800 at any gun show I go to).

Yeah, can you believe the prices today!?!?

It's completely nuts. I've been buying almost exclusively black powder pieces lately. There's an auction tomorrow where they have about 60 firearms, some appear to be quite interesting. I've got VE testing on the east side of town at 9am, the auction starts at 10am in a city 40 miles west of where I'll be. My wife and step-son are going to the auction, maybe they'll find something that hasn't been bid up too high for me....

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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Yeah, can you believe the prices today!?!?

It's completely nuts. I've been buying almost exclusively black powder pieces lately. There's an auction tomorrow where they have about 60 firearms, some appear to be quite interesting. I've got VE testing on
the east side of town at 9am, the auction starts at 10am in a city 40 miles west of where I'll be. My wife and step-son are going to the auction, maybe they'll find something that hasn't been bid up too high
for me....

Good luck! Hope you get something decent? In the old days I would have
said "hope you get a deal" but I think those days are, if not gone
completely, absent for the moment. :-)



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Hey folks. Anyone near a Murdoch's might want to check out their sales circular.
Heritage Arms Barkeeps for $99.99. I'd never pay full price for one, but at that
price I had to drive into town and grab mine. Sale lasts for two more days, I believe...

https://www.murdochs.com/products/sporting-goods/firearms- ammo/firearms/handguns/heritage-manufacturing-22-lr-barkeep-revolver/

Cheers!
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Weatherman wrote to All <=-

Hey folks. Anyone near a Murdoch's might want to check out their sales circular.
Heritage Arms Barkeeps for $99.99. I'd never pay full price for one,
but at that
price I had to drive into town and grab mine. Sale lasts for two more days, I believe...

https://www.murdochs.com/products/sporting-goods/firearms- ammo/firearms/handguns/heritage-manufacturing-22-lr-barkeep-revolver/

I bought mine when they first came out, so paid more than that...
Really solid piece and VERY very accurate!



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Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-

Weatherman wrote to All <=-

Hey folks. Anyone near a Murdoch's might want to check out their sales circular.
Heritage Arms Barkeeps for $99.99. I'd never pay full price for one,
but at that
price I had to drive into town and grab mine. Sale lasts for two more days, I believe...

https://www.murdochs.com/products/sporting-goods/firearms- ammo/firearms/handguns/heritage-manufacturing-22-lr-barkeep-revolver/

I bought mine when they first came out, so paid more than that...
Really solid piece and VERY very accurate!

I have several Heritage revolvers. They may not measure up to the Single Six but they sure give the Wrangler a run for the money. One of the really nice things about them is that you can order a .22 WMR cylinder for only $30, and don't have to send the gun in to have the cylinder timed to the gun like you do with the Ruger.

I'll always treasure my Single Six, but I'll have a hell of a lot more fun with my Rough Riders and Barkeep!


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Weatherman wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

I have several Heritage revolvers. They may not measure up to the
Single Six but they sure give the Wrangler a run for the money. One of

Agreed!!! They are fun! I have a SUPER accurate one that I put
IMOP grips on, just like my old single six had.

the really nice things about them is that you can order a .22 WMR
cylinder for only $30, and don't have to send the gun in to have the cylinder timed to the gun like you do with the Ruger.

Yes! Another plus! LOL - and if you have ONE magnum cylinder, you
have one for ALL your Heritages. :-)

I'll always treasure my Single Six, but I'll have a hell of a lot more
fun with my Rough Riders and Barkeep!

Have you seen the new Wrangler (I forget the name) that has a magnum
cylinder too? Haven't had my hands on one... Wife's father passed
away in June and she inherited a TON of new 'items' so only purchase
lately has been a Glock she fell in love with - LOL.

We were at a cabin for fall break and went to the local gun store
(local for that area) and while we were looking around UPS delivered.
They opened the guns that came in and there was a 43x in a grey
I had never seen. She loved the look, the feel, etc. And it was
SO new she got to see it unboxed. LOL

Anyway - we are not gun traders under normal conditions, and
she had taken a .45 (I forget the exact model) but was a short
barral - smaller frame - kind of commander size. We shot less
than a magazine through it and neither of us liked it, so
we went BACK to the store with it and she traded it toward
the Glock. She walked out happy, and has a new EDC. :-)

Me? I'm still carrying the Shield .40. I did get new leather
for some others I wanted to try - I tried the Beretta 92FS
that she inherited - too big to feel comfortable. She also
got a CZ (a Beretta Hi Power clone, basically) - I think it's
a CZ-75? - anyway...

That one I like! Still bigger than the shield, but not too
big, so I keep it in the truck as a backup... My father in
law LOVED hogue grips, so several have them. I bought new
wooden grips for it and it's SO much better to shoot now!

Only issue is if I want it to be an EDC I need to get
bigger magazines... It has 2-10 rounds. Still more than
the Shield holds though...

Sorry for being long winded. :) First time back in months
and I tend to be verbose - LOL

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Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-

the really nice things about them is that you can order a .22 WMR
cylinder for only $30, and don't have to send the gun in to have the cylinder timed to the gun like you do with the Ruger.

Yes! Another plus! LOL - and if you have ONE magnum cylinder, you
have one for ALL your Heritages. :-)

That IS handy. I have a couple of the .22 WMR cylinders, but only because I want to have one available in case my son is using the other. It's VERY handy to have them interchangeable between guns, unlike with the Ruger where they seem to need to be timed to the specific gun.

I'll always treasure my Single Six, but I'll have a hell of a lot more
fun with my Rough Riders and Barkeep!

Have you seen the new Wrangler (I forget the name) that has a magnum cylinder too? Haven't had my hands on one... Wife's father passed

I've seen them at gun shows, basically trying to grab a piece of Heritage's market share. I've got a couple of the Wranglers, nicely made and definitely worth the couple of extra bucks in price over the Heritage. I haven't sprung for any magnum cylinders though, kind of doubt that I will. Also have an older Single Six, that is a little tack driver. With mechanical assistance (ie some sort of rest) can put all six rounds into a single ragged hole at 7 yards.

JA> cylinder too? Haven't had my hands on one... Wife's father passed

away in June and she inherited a TON of new 'items' so only purchase lately has been a Glock she fell in love with - LOL.

We were at a cabin for fall break and went to the local gun store
(local for that area) and while we were looking around UPS delivered.
They opened the guns that came in and there was a 43x in a grey
I had never seen. She loved the look, the feel, etc. And it was
SO new she got to see it unboxed. LOL

Anyway - we are not gun traders under normal conditions, and
she had taken a .45 (I forget the exact model) but was a short
barral - smaller frame - kind of commander size. We shot less
than a magazine through it and neither of us liked it, so
we went BACK to the store with it and she traded it toward
the Glock. She walked out happy, and has a new EDC. :-)

Me? I'm still carrying the Shield .40. I did get new leather
for some others I wanted to try - I tried the Beretta 92FS
that she inherited - too big to feel comfortable. She also
got a CZ (a Beretta Hi Power clone, basically) - I think it's
a CZ-75? - anyway...

That one I like! Still bigger than the shield, but not too
big, so I keep it in the truck as a backup... My father in
law LOVED hogue grips, so several have them. I bought new
wooden grips for it and it's SO much better to shoot now!

Only issue is if I want it to be an EDC I need to get
bigger magazines... It has 2-10 rounds. Still more than
the Shield holds though...

i generally carry a PT145 Pro. I like the size and the double stack gives me 10 rounds of .45 in the box and one in the tube. Spare mag gives me 21 rounds of 230 grains "leave me the hell alone" motivation. When I know I'm not going to be getting in and out of a vehicle I'll carry my S&W Model 645. It's defintely bigger than the Taurus but I have a better sight radius and the Wilson Combat mags bring me back up to that 10 round magazine capacity. The 645 definitely shoots better than the PT145 but then again a couple of inches extra on the sight radius makes that difference.

Have a couple of 1911A1s that are suitable for carry but for some reason I feel more comfortable with either the Taurus or the SW. I guess the fact that they're both DA/SA as opposed to SA only is part of it.

Obviously I prefer the .45 as my primary carry. Backup varies but is always DA only so I don't have a mechanical safety to worry about. I figure if I have to resort to the backup then I'm not going to want to have to disengage a safety because the fertilizer has already impacted the ventilation unit. Son carries a 1911 in 10mm (but in Condition Two - WTF!? :) ). I'm sure the 10 has better terminal characteristics than .45 ACP, but I guess I'm just a traditionalist at heart.

Sorry for being long winded. :) First time back in months
and I tend to be verbose - LOL

Yeah, I tend to get that way myself after a shot or two if Irish and beer. Hell, that's what these BBS things are designed for anyway, right?



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Weatherman wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-

Have you seen the new Wrangler (I forget the name) that has a magnum cylinder too? Haven't had my hands on one... Wife's father passed

I've seen them at gun shows, basically trying to grab a piece of Heritage's market share. I've got a couple of the Wranglers, nicely
made and definitely worth the couple of extra bucks in price over the Heritage. I haven't sprung for any magnum cylinders though, kind of
doubt that I will.

Super Wrangler - saw one Saturday at a gun show. The original Wrangler does
NOT use the mag cylinder... So you'd have to buy a new gun, but since
when was that a bad thing? :-)

Me? I'm still carrying the Shield .40. I did get new leather
for some others I wanted to try - I tried the Beretta 92FS
that she inherited - too big to feel comfortable. She also
got a CZ (a Beretta Hi Power clone, basically) - I think it's
a CZ-75? - anyway...

That one I like! Still bigger than the shield, but not too
big, so I keep it in the truck as a backup... My father in
law LOVED hogue grips, so several have them. I bought new
wooden grips for it and it's SO much better to shoot now!

Only issue is if I want it to be an EDC I need to get
bigger magazines... It has 2-10 rounds. Still more than
the Shield holds though...

Looked up the serial number, and it was manufactured during the
"10 round max" period.

I looked again at the show at a Shield Plus... Bought my wife
an LCP Max to replace her LCP II, for the extra rounds, and she
wants to upgrade my EDC as well. The thing that jumped out at
me on the Shield Plus is the 'normal' sights - I'd like to
upgrade to something nicer. The max has tritium.

Yes, I can upgrade the sights myself, but looking at maybe a
Performance Center model instead, but nothing decided yet. My wife
has a Sig P365 as well, and I like it too...

You mentioned carrying a .45. She has a 1911 clone she inherited
(I think it's a Springfield) and I bought her some IMOP grips
to replace the hogue - she likes it now. :-)

Sorry for being long winded. :) First time back in months
and I tend to be verbose - LOL

Yeah, I tend to get that way myself after a shot or two if Irish and
beer. Hell, that's what these BBS things are designed for anyway,
right?

YES - very much so!





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Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-

We> I've seen them at gun shows, basically trying to grab a piece of

Heritage's market share. I've got a couple of the Wranglers, nicely
made and definitely worth the couple of extra bucks in price over the Heritage. I haven't sprung for any magnum cylinders though, kind of
doubt that I will.

Super Wrangler - saw one Saturday at a gun show. The original Wrangler does NOT use the mag cylinder... So you'd have to buy a new gun, but
since when was that a bad thing? :-)

Super Wrangler, eh? Will have to take a closer look next time I get near one. Was at a gun show just this past weekend, picked up a 75th Ruger Anniversary 10/22 in stainless. Looked really nice and the price wasn't bad at all. They also had a 10/22 60th anniversary model with some bells and whistles but the price was more than I was willing to give up.

Also picked up a Wild Bill Hickock tribute Rough Rider that my wife liked. Nice thing about that one is that it came with LR and WMR cylinders and the WMR cylinder is engraved with an Aces and Eights motif. I see that Heritage Mfg is upping the game on their revolvers, they have models with adjustable rear sights now. Might be worth taking a look at sometime down the road.

You mentioned carrying a .45. She has a 1911 clone she inherited
(I think it's a Springfield) and I bought her some IMOP grips
to replace the hogue - she likes it now. :-)

I resisted the 1911 bug for quite some time. Was quite satisfied with my PT145 and my SW model 645. Still think the 645 is a better design as a matter of fact. I got bitten however when a co-worker of my wife's father passed and she was selling his guns to help pay for the funeral. One of the pieces as a Norinco 1911A1. Got it for $200. Talk about a gateway drug... I now have at least three "unadorned" 1911s as well as three commemoratives (two Trump commemoratives and one Wyoming commemorative, with gold inlays).

I seriously need to update my inventory sheet. I had 88 entries when I left NY, but that was 12 years and many purchases ago. I'm sure I'm way over 100 pieces now and some of them are quite impossible to replace.



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Weatherman wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-

We> I've seen them at gun shows, basically trying to grab a piece of

Heritage's market share. I've got a couple of the Wranglers, nicely
made and definitely worth the couple of extra bucks in price over the Heritage. I haven't sprung for any magnum cylinders though, kind of
doubt that I will.

Super Wrangler - saw one Saturday at a gun show. The original Wrangler does NOT use the mag cylinder... So you'd have to buy a new gun, but
since when was that a bad thing? :-)

Super Wrangler, eh? Will have to take a closer look next time I get

Felt the same as the 'base model' - which is GREAT! LOL

near one. Was at a gun show just this past weekend, picked up a 75th
Ruger Anniversary 10/22 in stainless. Looked really nice and the price wasn't bad at all. They also had a 10/22 60th anniversary model with
some bells and whistles but the price was more than I was willing to
give up.

My first gun when I was seven years old was a Browning SA-22, Belgium made. Grew up with that and still have it! Since it was 'my right arm' for so
long, I never really got into the 10/22's.

Also picked up a Wild Bill Hickock tribute Rough Rider that my wife
liked. Nice thing about that one is that it came with LR and WMR
cylinders and the WMR cylinder is engraved with an Aces and Eights
motif. I see that Heritage Mfg is upping the game on their revolvers, they have models with adjustable rear sights now. Might be worth
taking a look at sometime down the road.

Not looking for adjustable sights speciically, but I agree they seem to
have upped the RANGE of their offerings anyway. :-)

You mentioned carrying a .45. She has a 1911 clone she inherited
(I think it's a Springfield) and I bought her some IMOP grips
to replace the hogue - she likes it now. :-)

I resisted the 1911 bug for quite some time. Was quite satisfied with
my PT145 and my SW model 645. Still think the 645 is a better design
as a matter of fact. I got bitten however when a co-worker of my wife's father passed and she was selling his guns to help pay for the funeral.
One of the pieces as a Norinco 1911A1. Got it for $200. Talk about a gateway drug... I now have at least three "unadorned" 1911s as well as three commemoratives (two Trump commemoratives and one Wyoming commemorative, with gold inlays).

LOL - nice! Our youngest son likes his 1911's. I like them okay, but I
don't have the bug. :-) If I have a bug at all it's SAA types (Wranger, Heritage, etc.).

I seriously need to update my inventory sheet. I had 88 entries when I left NY, but that was 12 years and many purchases ago. I'm sure I'm
way over 100 pieces now and some of them are quite impossible to
replace.

Yes - get that done!





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jimmylogan wrote to Weatherman <=-

LOL - nice! Our youngest son likes his 1911's. I like them okay, but I don't have the bug. :-) If I have a bug at all it's SAA types (Wranger, Heritage, etc.).

I enjoy single action revolvers a lot myself. Have several in a variety of calibers from .22 on up to .45 Colt. My prized SA acquisition was a pair of Ruger Single Action Shooting Society Vaqueros in .45 Colt, stainless steel with sequential serial numbers. My brother in law was VERY much into cowboy action shooting and tried SO hard to get those away from me. Have some very nice looking .38s and .45s in case-hardened finish as well.


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