nobody uses instant msging anymore.
nobody uses instant msging anymore.
Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in, having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
nobody uses instant msging anymore.
Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in, having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in, having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
IM clients on your phone are the main form of communication now. Where I am from pretty much everyone is on WhatsApp -- it's a very good way to keep in
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Andeddu to knightbbs on Wed Jun 30 2021 03:39 pm
Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
IM clients on your phone are the main form of communication now. Where I from pretty much everyone is on WhatsApp -- it's a very good way to keep
the people i know just use facebook, snapchat, instagram or txting.
whatsapp isnt that popular with them. i have whatsapp but why would i use i when i can txt a friend instead?
Whatsapp and the like have a big edge against old-school texting because phone plans in Spain usually don't include free or cheap SMS. Instead, data plans
are available in spades.
Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in, having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
IM clients on your phone are the main form of communication now. Where I am from pretty much everyone is on WhatsApp -- it's a very good way to keep in
the people i know just use facebook, snapchat, instagram or txting.
whatsapp isnt that popular with them. i have whatsapp but why would i use it when i can txt a friend instead?
Whatsapp is the de-facto communication tool in Spain. It is not phone calls, it is not Facebook. Most Spaniards who need to send a message to somebody will try Whatsapp as their first option. If that option fails then they will desist trying something else at all.
Which sucks because "silos" (communication platforms ran by a single provider, who requires you to register with an unique identifier) are quite lame out of niche applications.
Whatsapp and the like have a big edge against old-school texting because phone plans in Spain usually don't include free or cheap SMS. Instead, data plans
are available in spades.
Same here in the UK. I used to speak people over the phone quite often but n I can barely remember the last time I had a traditional call with a friend. WhatsApp also include a Skype style voice only or camera enabled chat which pretty decent as I use that quite often. I've also had acquaintances and wor colleagues contact me over WhatsApp voice chat rather than phone me which wa weird at first but I am used to it now.
I think most people still use all those social media clients alongside WhatsApp which is more for general chat. In the UK texting is pretty much dead as it's just not as good an experience as WhatsApp... NightFox said before that WhatsApp isn't massive in the USA but I reside in the UK. Texting is also still limited here in the sense that most phone packages include around 500-1000 text messages. Everyone seems to have a large data contract so WhatsApp can be used without having to worry about going over your allowance... perhaps that's the reason it's so popular.
Either way, I think smart phones are responsible for killing off traditional
that's so fucking backwards. you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt msgs
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Jul 05 2021 09:28 am
that's so fucking backwards. you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt msgs
If you think a limit of 500 to 100 SMS is bad, then wait until you learn they charge 20 cents each here.
The bright side is out ISPs don't block common service ports such as port 22 and 25 for home connections very often, which is good because it allows residential customers to do a lot of hobby things with their networks that American users seem to need an enterprise subscription for.
On 07-05-21 03:07, Arelor wrote to Andeddu <=-
The problem with video and voice calls is that they require you to have
a proper data plan and a provider able to sustain the call. My father tried with Whatsapp videocalls once but they didn't work well at all. Similar thing with voice calls.
It sucks a lot because many people will try to initiate a videocall to you, and the whole thing will fail because the ISP can't sustain it,
and the initiator is often too stupid or mean to switch to regular
phone call - which works perfectly fine.
I have an unlimited phone plan. I can phone as much people I want as
often I want and for how long as I want and it won't cost me an extra dime. I have no need for IP calls myself.
On 07-05-21 09:28, MRO wrote to Andeddu <=-
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Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Andeddu to MRO on Mon Jul 05 2021 01:40 am
I think most people still use all those social media clients alongside WhatsApp which is more for general chat. In the UK texting is pretty much dead as it's just not as good an experience as WhatsApp... NightFox said before that WhatsApp isn't massive in the USA but I reside in the UK. Texting is also still limited here in the sense that most phone packages include around 500-1000 text messages. Everyone seems to have a large data contract so WhatsApp can be used without having to worry about going over your allowance... perhaps that's the reason it's so popular.
Either way, I think smart phones are responsible for killing off traditional
that's so fucking backwards. you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt msgs. ---
Either way, I think smart phones are responsible for killing off traditional IM clients such as MSN.
The problem with video and voice calls is that they require you to have a proper data plan and a provider able to sustain the call. My father tried with Whatsapp videocalls once but they didn't work well at all. Similar thing with voice calls.
It sucks a lot because many people will try to initiate a videocall to you, and the whole thing will fail because the ISP can't sustain it, and the initiator is often too stupid or mean to switch to regular phone call - which works perfectly fine.
I have an unlimited phone plan. I can phone as much people I want as often I want and for how long as I want and it won't cost me an extra dime. I have no need for IP calls myself.
that's so fucking backwards. you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt msgs.
Most contacts I see now have huge data or unlimited data plans and very limited text message and call time. The way I see it is that text messaging and phone calls are so 2008 and we've moved on since then.
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Jul 05 2021 09:28 am
that's so fucking backwards. you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt msgs.
Most contacts I see now have huge data or unlimited data plans and very limited text message and call time. The way I see it is that text messaging and phone calls are so 2008 and we've moved on since then.
I don't think that's a problem with 99% of people though because 4G coverage is so good now and
you're at home you should have a decent WiFi connection. For the people who are out in the stick
and are unable to sustain a conference call, a traditional phone call would be far more
appropriate.
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 05:19 pm
Most contacts I see now have huge data or unlimited data plans and very limited text messag
and call time. The way I see it is that text messaging and phone calls are so 2008 and we'v
moved on since then.
Sometimes a phone call is nice though. You can't replace the nuance you get with hearing someon
voice.
Nightfox
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 05:19 pm
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Jul 05 2021 09:28 am
that's so fucking backwards. you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt msgs.
Most contacts I see now have huge data or unlimited data plans and very limited text message
call time. The way I see it is that text messaging and phone calls are so 2008 and we've move
on since then.
thats very strange for them to limit calls and txting.
why would they even do that if they provide unlimited data?
That is a very firstworldler-like declaration to make.
A lot of people on this ball of mud we call Earth does not even have a data plan at all. They just can't afford it. I have heard a lot of people in India has smartphones without dataplans at all and they get their Internet fix using public wifis or whatever.
I don't think that's a problem with 99% of people though because 4G
coverage is so good now and you're at home you should have a decent
That is a very firstworldler-like declaration to make.
A lot of people on this ball of mud we call Earth does not even have a data plan at all. They just can't afford it. I have heard a lot of people
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Thu Jul 08 2021 06:22 am
That is a very firstworldler-like declaration to make.
A lot of people on this ball of mud we call Earth does not even have a data plan at all. The
just can't afford it. I have heard a lot of people in India has smartphones without dataplan
at all and they get their Internet fix using public wifis or whatever.
2600 magazine has a regular column called "Telecom Insider" written by a guy who travels the wor
contracting for telcos. He does a good job of documenting the telco conditions in the countries
visits.
He described a China a few years back where "regular joes" did most of their commerce with a
feature phone bought with a pre-paid plan, and using SMS to pay bills and conduct business. I'd
almost prefer that to the State-Of-The-Art people are pushing.
I don't know how many minutes I have in my contract for
phone calls... possibly only 200-300 minutes, but I have
unlimited data so I tend to just use 4G for everything even
when I have access to a WiFi connection.
Either way, I think smart phones are responsible for killing off traditional IM clients such as MSN.
I don't see why they couldn't coexist. Traditional IM clients had apps for smartphones, so they could be used both on a desktop/laptop and a smartphone. These days, I've seen some instances where smartphone text messages are available on a PC/laptop (I think Apple does that with their iPhone and Mac OS), so it seems it has come full circle. The usefulness of being able to communicate on a PC/laptop is still there. I also think it would be useful to be able to communicate with someone without sharing your phone number.
Nightfox
Most contacts I see now have huge data or unlimited data plans and very limited text message and call time. The way I see it is that text messaging and phone calls are so 2008 and we've moved on since then.
Sometimes a phone call is nice though. You can't replace the nuance you get with hearing someone's voice.
Nightfox
thats very strange for them to limit calls and txting.
why would they even do that if they provide unlimited data?
I don't think that's a problem with 99% of people though because 4G coverage is so good now and
you're at home you should have a decent WiFi connection. For the people who are out in the stick
and are unable to sustain a conference call, a traditional phone call would be far more
appropriate.
That is a very firstworldler-like declaration to make.
A lot of people on this ball of mud we call Earth does not even have a data plan at all. They just
can't afford it. I have heard a lot of people in India has smartphones without dataplans at all and
they get their Internet fix using public wifis or whatever.
According to the GSMA State of Mobile Internet Connectivity report, as much as 40% of the planet's
population will still be digitally isolated by 2025.
You don't have to be very far off to be out of proper mobile network coverage though. If I drive
for half an hour away of the main city of my province, the quality of the connectivity drops very
sharply.
I am a liiitle bit touchy with this subject because I have noticed a very disturbing pattern when
rolling down technologies like these:
* Technology is first deployed, availability is insufficient, and everybody thinks it is not "quite
there".
* Technology becomes widely available in high density population areas. Inhabitants in high
population areas think the technology is great.
* Inhabitants of densely populated areas claim the tech is ready and whidespread (because it is for
them). The technology starts being deployed in low-density inhabited areas at snail pace.
* Inhabitants of densely populated areas start pushing for sociological changes that surround the
new technology assuming it is widespread. For example, they try to make Internet access mandatory
for certain tasks that used to be doable over a phone line.
* When inhabitants of places where this technology is not deployed at all complain, city slickers
counter with some statement which is true if you happen to live in New York. "How come you don't
have affordable Internet! Stop complaining and get an ADSL subscription! I have one and it is
cheap! Get on with the times man, it is 2005 already!"
For a New Yorker it might seem that 99% of people won't have trouble adopting the tech, but believe
me, this is an skewed assumption.
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Wed Jul 07 2021 10:06 pm
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 05:19 pm
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Jul 05 2021 09:28 am
that's so fucking backwards. you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt msgs.
Most contacts I see now have huge data or unlimited data plans and very limited text message
call time. The way I see it is that text messaging and phone calls are so 2008 and we've move
on since then.
thats very strange for them to limit calls and txting.
why would they even do that if they provide unlimited data?
I think it is because they want to sell SMS plans to the enterprise segment.
Enterprise in Spain consumes SMS plans like crazy. They do for everything from banking to
marketing. There is an study that SMS are much more likely to be read, and - very important - are
much more likely to reach the recipient on time, because not everybody has access to a
low-latency-high-bandwidth mobile network 24/7/365, but much more people has access to a network
which is at least SMS capable.
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Wed Jul 07 2021 10:06 pm
thats very strange for them to limit calls and txting.
why would they even do that if they provide unlimited data?
Well most of the highly popular contracts in the UK offer unlimited data but some of them, such as mine, don't offer unlimited minutes or SMS. Some do but you would have to pay extra, probably another 5-10 dollars per month. As SMS isn't really used much over here there is no real need for it. Pretty much everything can be done via apps anyway... WhatsApp do audio and video conference calls along with large group calls and such -- I think people just get comfortable with the app they're on and end up using it for everything.
I guess roll outs re tech happen at a different pace depending on which continent, country and
region you reside. In most dense cities and towns in the UK, the 4G network is robust and can
handle 720p/1080p video streams and confernece calls with no issue. Even rural villages appear t
have strong 4G signals and are able to sustain all of the above. I understand that it's not nice
leaving people behind or forcing people to move on to newer technologies if they're happy with w
they've got... but that's what progress is all about. I think, especially with COVID, we are mov
very quickly down the technological path and most people are starting to grasp now that this is
future -- people are going to work from home remotely and sometimes children are going to be tau
via virtual class rooms and court trials are going to be handled through a virtual court. We are
becoming highly dependent on the internet and I cannot see things changing post-COVID.
The problem with video and voice calls is that they require
you to have a proper data plan and a provider able to
sustain the call. My father tried with Whatsapp videocalls
once but they didn't work well at all. Similar thing with
voice calls.
It sucks a lot because many people will try to initiate a
videocall to you, and the whole thing will fail because the
ISP can't sustain it, and the initiator is often too stupid
or mean to switch to regular phone call - which works
perfectly fine.
I have an unlimited phone plan. I can phone as much people
I want as often I want and for how long as I want and it
won't cost me an extra dime. I have no need for IP calls
myself.
IM clients on your phone are the main form of communication
now. Where I am from pretty much everyone is on WhatsApp --
it's a very good way to keep in
the people i know just use facebook, snapchat, instagram or
txting. whatsapp isnt that popular with them. i have
whatsapp but why would i use it when i can txt a friend
instead?
I think Addieu is in the UK, which is a smaller country, and I could see it being a lot easier to ensure 100% cell coverage in a smaller area. But in a larger country, I think it could be cost-prohibitive for cell companies to maintain enough cell towers to have coverage even outside of the cities.
Nightfox
I don't know how many minutes I have in my contract for
phone calls... possibly only 200-300 minutes, but I have
unlimited data so I tend to just use 4G for everything even
when I have access to a WiFi connection.
That's an interesting reversal. I've never heard of a provider
offering unlimited 4G while restricting call minutes. Every
provider/service that I've encountered treats data as a
premium. What company are you with?
--
it just seems like you guys are doing a work around, but acting like you are ahead of the rest of the world and innovative.
The problem is when they try to sell you a *something* that happens to be a non-working product,
you declare it is a non-working product and that you want your old working product back, and what
you get is "that's what progress is all about."
"Update yourself man, banking over mobile applications is the future!"
I am fine with it being the future, but if the mobile platform is failing more often than not I
want to be able to do my banking over a regular web browser. It sucks when they remove a product
that used to work and replace it by something that does not.
Here is this, my old home ISP used to run a Wimax nerwork for rural settlements that was quite ok.
One day the shut it down and told every customer to switch over to a home 4G plan. The only problem
was, the reason why people had signed up for the Wimax plans instead of a 4G one was precisely
because mobile plans in this area dare unstable, suffer from data caps, and place customers behind
massive CG-NATs. The ISP tried to convince everybody that moving to 4G was a better more modern
system. "The future" and "getting on with the times."
What happened is people switched over to ANOTHER ISP that still offered Wimax.
I suspect it is part of this trend of having end users be the beta testers of your technology. They
don't sell you working solutions anymore, they sell you half-baked ones and the promise that it
will work tomorrow.
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Jul 10 2021 04:07 pm
it just seems like you guys are doing a work around, but acting like you are ahead of the rest of the world and innovative.
But you were talking about it being better and more efficient if the user could use fewer applications and methods of contacting people rather than more. WhatsApp is close to perfect because it allows you to do everything -- standard IMing with an individual or a group, image, video and file
..Apple has iMessage
which allows users to contact each other using any of their
devices. I often start a conversation on my smartphone and,
once I get home, I continue the conversation over my
iPad... I don't have a MacBook or iMac but either device
would also be compatible. Something totally third-party
which could be used on a device of any brand would be
pretty great though. Someone should make that happen.
Hello Andeddu!
** On Saturday 10.07.21 - 20:45, Andeddu wrote to Nightfox:
..Apple has iMessage
which allows users to contact each other using any of their
devices. I often start a conversation on my smartphone and,
once I get home, I continue the conversation over my
iPad... I don't have a MacBook or iMac but either device
would also be compatible. Something totally third-party
which could be used on a device of any brand would be
pretty great though. Someone should make that happen.
Telegram is exactly that. Fully synchronized across devices.
Use it on Android, iPhone, iPad, PC, Linux, MacOS.
https://telegram.org/
Works on 32bit and 64bit devices too.
Some Fidonet echos are linked up with it.
For more info on the Fidonet part, start here:
https://t.me/joinchat/TWCQfOZqwwOmweR1
Pretty much that. I find Telegram to be a superior product to Whatsapp if just because it is true multiplatform and you can use it both from your portable devices and your workstations without any convoluted process.
And I don't like Telegram that much.
I am with Three. I subscribed to their "all you can eat"
data plan back in 2016 for around 20-25 dollars which had
an SMS and call limit but no data limit. I went with them
becuase they promised not to choke my bandwidth if I went
above a certain artifical limit. I can often exceed 25gb of
data usage per month and I have never noticed a decline in
quality.
.. my one is the most basic because it's just unlimited
data and I haven't asked for anything else.
I believe that cheap 5G coverage via Starlink may be the
solution for large geographic regions such as the USA.
that's good. you are allowing facebook to collect your information and your contact's information on all fronts with whatsapp.
Telegram is exactly that. Fully synchronized across devices.
Use it on Android, iPhone, iPad, PC, Linux, MacOS.
https://telegram.org/
Works on 32bit and 64bit devices too.
Some Fidonet echos are linked up with it.
For more info on the Fidonet part, start here:
https://t.me/joinchat/TWCQfOZqwwOmweR1
I like the sound of their "SIM only, Unlimited data" plans.
Compared to here, their product is very cheap.
Cheap is not a realistic adjective to describe Starlink. :D
I qualified for an initial rollout of the Starlink gear at my
home. But the upfront cost for the equipment was over $600,
and the ongoing monthly was well over $100 too.
There was no assurance that the equipment could be replaced
economically should it sustain weather/electrical damage.
Another $600 would be a big blow.
I dunno.. but maybe being in the rural setting as I am now,
doesn't need all the wizbang of high-speed internet when the
the peace and beauty of the rural life-style is why I prefer
this setting. A simple 4G phone (3G speeds) activated as a
moble hotspot seems to be quite enough and far less expensive
than a Starlink solution.
i prefer telegram over most things. i dont like how google
censors the channels, so i have to get the direct version
or another one that isnt on the store. -+-
that's good. you are allowing facebook to collect your information and your contact's information on all fronts with whatsapp.
Well you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you allow big corporations to consolodate your information in return for convenience, or you're stuck using seperate programmes for individual needs and requirements.
Once it's installed your devices, updates are built-in from the
app and you don't need to look for any other versions. The
telegram.org site has everything you need.
https://t.me/joinchat/TWCQfOZqwwOmweR1
Pretty much that. I find Telegram to be a superior product
to Whatsapp if just because it is true multiplatform and
you can use it both from your portable devices and your
workstations without any convoluted process.
And I don't like Telegram that much.
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Jul 12 2021 09:36 am
that's good. you are allowing facebook to collect your information and yo contact's information on all fronts with whatsapp.
Well you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you allow big corporati to consolodate your information in return for convenience, or you're stuck using seperate programmes for individual needs and requirements.
Re: cheap 5G coverage via Starlink
By: Ogg to Andeddu on Tue Jul 13 2021 08:58 am
Cheap is not a realistic adjective to describe Starlink. :D
I qualified for an initial rollout of the Starlink gear at my
home. But the upfront cost for the equipment was over $600,
and the ongoing monthly was well over $100 too.
There was no assurance that the equipment could be replaced
economically should it sustain weather/electrical damage.
Another $600 would be a big blow.
I dunno.. but maybe being in the rural setting as I am now,
doesn't need all the wizbang of high-speed internet when the
the peace and beauty of the rural life-style is why I prefer
this setting. A simple 4G phone (3G speeds) activated as a
moble hotspot seems to be quite enough and far less expensive
than a Starlink solution.
Perhaps I was mislead when Musk stated that Starlink would provide cheap internet access to hundreds of millions of people in rural Africa.
I agree, 3G is fine for 720p/540p video and basic web browsing as long as it stable.
By: Ogg to Andeddu on Tue Jul 13 2021 08:58 am
Cheap is not a realistic adjective to describe Starlink.
:D
There was no assurance that the equipment could be
replaced economically should it sustain weather/electrical
damage. Another $600 would be a big blow.
I dunno.. but maybe being in the rural setting as I am
now, doesn't need all the wizbang of high-speed internet
when the the peace and beauty of the rural life-style is
why I prefer this setting. A simple 4G phone (3G speeds)
activated as a moble hotspot seems to be quite enough and
far less expensive than a Starlink solution.
It is the sort of thing that will be cheap when time comes.
Also, if you can set an access point in a settlement in the
middle of nowhere and grant 1 meg per user, it is a massive
upgrade for people who had nothing before.
Or, actually, a massive downgrade, because the Facebooks
and Googles of this world will now start playing with their
minds for their own goals...
And I don't like Telegram that much.
Why not?
It is the sort of thing that will be cheap when time comes.
I doubt that Starlink will be marketed that way. I think its
service will be treated as a premium service and therefore
justify the high entry cost and ongoing monthly cost.
Their reference desktop implementation is built on Electron, which is a framework known for raping your RAM continuously, because it knows application frameworks cannot be thrown into jail for their evil deeds.
Also it is liked to a phone number which I dislike as an authentication system. It means the ability to sign up to the service is liked to your ability to connect to a regular phone network or fake it, plus I don't need to have my identity liked to a phone subscription for a service that should not be using a phone network. I understand the reasons - for the service administrators it is so much easier to use phones as authenticators than
So well, it gets the job done but it is not *that* good. It certainly beats the crap out of Whatsapp because Whatsapp non-mobile implementation is a JOKE (Telegram's suck but it DOES work), and they have the same problems
Once it's installed your devices, updates are built-in from the
app and you don't need to look for any other versions. The
telegram.org site has everything you need.
Re: Someone should make that happen..
By: Ogg to MRO on Wed Jul 14 2021 06:02 pm
Once it's installed your devices, updates are built-in from the
app and you don't need to look for any other versions. The
telegram.org site has everything you need.
Does the person I'm texting also need to have telegram installed? Seems to m there's a shit load of messaging software out there.
... When you haven't got enough iodine in your blood you get a glacier.
Their reference desktop implementation is built on
Electron, which is a framework known for raping your RAM
continuously, because it knows application frameworks
cannot be thrown into jail for their evil deeds.
Also it is liked to a phone number which I dislike as an
authentication system. ... [...] I understand the reasons -
for the service administrators it is so much easier to use
phones as authenticators than user/password combos - but as
a power end user it is insulting.
So well, it gets the job done but it is not *that* good.
It certainly beats the crap out of Whatsapp because
Whatsapp non-mobile implementation is a JOKE (Telegram's
suck but it DOES work), and they have the same problems
Telegram does without its advantages (like propper bot
support and not being related to Facebook).
This is the reason why I am staying away from marihuana
products for my store. A 15 ml. flask of OCB oil at a
pitiful concentration is worth 60 eur to the public,
because it is early technology in Spain. The problem is
that 6 months from now this thing would be worth half of
that so if I get a big shipment (which is the only way of
turning a profit nowadays) I will have to eat every unsold
unit after 6 months, or sell them at a loss.
Their reference desktop implementation is built on
Electron, which is a framework known for raping your RAM
continuously, because it knows application frameworks
cannot be thrown into jail for their evil deeds.
Ok.. I dunno what Electron is. I might look it up. But wrt
RAM, the DT version on my XP laptop only uses up an extra 200KB
of RAM after it loads.
Well you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you allow big corporations to consolodate your information in return for convenience, or you're stuck using seperate programmes for individual needs and requirements.
yeah, i'll do that instead of handing my life over to a company that's already been convicted in court multiple times for collecting and misusing user information.
Or you use a program that incorporates all the functionality you need but works in a federated manned. Something like Retroshare, which provides chats and forums, videos and filesharing and what else, but each user runs their own instances.
Think of email, in which you have your own email server but may send messages to people who uses a different email server.
Also, if you can set an access point in a settlement in the middle of nowhere and grant 1 meg per user, it is a massive upgrade for people who had nothing before.
Or, actually, a massive downgrade, because the Facebooks and Googles of this world will now start playing with their minds for their own goals...
Does the person I'm texting also need to have telegram
installed? Seems to me there's a shit load of messaging
software out there.
Also it is liked to a phone number which I dislike as an
authentication system. ... [...] I understand the reasons -
for the service administrators it is so much easier to use
phones as authenticators than user/password combos - but as
a power end user it is insulting.
Perhaps they use the phone for authentication because the app
was originally a phone app? ...and DT version came later?
This is the reason why I am staying away from marihuana
products for my store. A 15 ml. flask of OCB oil at a
pitiful concentration is worth 60 eur to the public,
because it is early technology in Spain. The problem is
that 6 months from now this thing would be worth half of
that so if I get a big shipment (which is the only way of
turning a profit nowadays) I will have to eat every unsold
unit after 6 months, or sell them at a loss.
WHERE's the nearest next place where people can go to get some?
Why not build a clinetelle at the cost of breaking even? I do
that with some books that people want. Sometimes a book order
is at a loss, but other books make up for it.
Their reference desktop implementation is built on
Electron, which is a framework known for raping your RAM
continuously, because it knows application frameworks
cannot be thrown into jail for their evil deeds.
Ok.. I dunno what Electron is. I might look it up. But wrt
RAM, the DT version on my XP laptop only uses up an extra 200KB
of RAM after it loads.
Ooops. Make that 200MB, not 200KB.
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Thu Jul 15 2021 08:30 am
Or you use a program that incorporates all the functionality you need but works in a federated manned. Something like Retroshare, which provides ch and forums, videos and filesharing and what else, but each user runs thei own instances.
Think of email, in which you have your own email server but may send messages to people who uses a different email server.
I am sure is great and all but for something to be viable it has to be used much of the population. I could probably have a small cluster of friends on niche application such as Retroshare but then I would still have to use WhatsApp to speak with the rest of the normies in my chat group. I am not saying that WhatsApp, FaceBook and Twitter, etc... are all amazing but the superior versions run by companies that respect privacy are not known by the wider population.
There are a load of others, and most of them are shit, indeed.
But Telegram is pretty sweet. ;)
to useless. People are just sick of messengers and just does not check them out very often anymore. Or they just check the chats of the three people who matters to them.
But well, I suppose BBS are not viable since they are unknown to the wider population XD
There are a load of others, and most of them are shit,
indeed.
But Telegram is pretty sweet. ;)
I installed it on both my phone and PC. Now I need to find
someone else that uses it.
I am t.me/aabolins My icon is a pile of books with a hat on
top. I think just searching for "aabolins" would show my link
too. I could then get you started in some fidonet groups so
that you can see how it looks and works on Telegram. Most
fidonet groups still need "real names", but as long as you sign
your message with your real name that should be good enough for
most moderators.
I installed it on both my phone and PC. Now I need to find
someone else that uses it.
I am t.me/aabolins My icon is a pile of books with a hat on
top. I think just searching for "aabolins" would show my link
too. I could then get you started in some fidonet groups so
whats the fidonet group names? when i search fidonet i just see a bunch of non english posting and spam ---
whats the fidonet group names? when i search fidonet i just
see a bunch of non english posting and spam ..
..but something I have noticed is that common users are no
longer capable of using user/password combinations at all.
I am sure developers are aware of this.
What I mean is that is is extremely common for end users to
set an user/password for some service, such as email. Then
they load their access credentials in some program or
application that manages them automatically so they never
have to type them ever again. Then a catastrophe happens to
device that stored the credentials, and when they want to
access the service from a new device they discover it is
user/password protected _AND THEY DIDN'T REMEMBER IT WAS
USER/PASSWORD PROTECTED AT ALL_.
The simple solution is to skip the password system and use
SMS verification. It sucks for power users because power
users understand there is no reason why the provider should
have your phone number at all and it is just a maneuver for
their gain and nothing else.But it helps them deal with the
sheeple with less work.
I think if some niche software you can use with your small group of friends, it *is* a viable program.
I have 2000+ contacts in my address book and I only talk to 4 of them regularly. Most often by phone. You don't need a program that lets you talk to three million people, you need a program that lets you talk to the five people who matters to you.
This is specially true because mainstream messengers are so abused that a message you send is unlikely to be read on time if it is urgent. I have a professional phone with some mainstream messenger installed and it is close to useless. People are just sick of messengers and just does not check them out very often anymore. Or they just check the chats of the three people who matters to them.
But well, I suppose BBS are not viable since they are unknown to the wider population XD.
But well, I suppose BBS are not viable since they are unknown to the wider population XD
it's not really that they are unknown. the problem is they suck and nobody wants to use one. if you show someone a bbs, they dont want to use it. they have no reason to use it.
To avoid the detection and abuse by spam, otherbots, and people
that duck-n-run, the fidonet ones are private or invite only.
that duck-n-run, the fidonet ones are private or invite only.
Originally (about a year ago now) that meant that an existing
member was needed to "invite" another person OR add that person
to a group. However (now about a year later), it is self
administrating.
If you already have Telegram set up, there are only two steps
to link up:
[1] Send a %LIST command in the chat with the @Fido2telebot for
list of available areas.
[2] Send a %help command in the chat with the @Fido2telebot for
more info.
The %LIST will send you a full list of echos available to join
by providing the invite links for you. The list may take a few
minutes to arrive (it's also in two parts).
The specifically "Fidonet" (English) ones will have "Fidonet"
in the description. There is one echo/group exception,
FIDOTEST; that one is English too.
After you've joined a group/echo, you will be able to read the
back history of messages. But you will be able to POST only
after you complete a part of the %userprofile with the
@Fido2telebot bot.
The %userprofile allows you to create an optional tagline, a
signature, a real name, etc. This is akin to a minimum
registration on a BBS.
Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-
Yes... that seems to be a consequence of people once being
accustomed to using desktops for most of their login
requirements and switching to tablets or phones that seem to
manange logins a bit differently?
Re: Someone should make that happen..
By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Jul 18 2021 10:13 am
To avoid the detection and abuse by spam, otherbots, and people
that duck-n-run, the fidonet ones are private or invite only.
that must be great for getting people.
fuck that shit.
i dont have time in my life for that horseshit.
IM clients on your phone are the main form of communication now. Where I am from pretty much everyone is on WhatsApp -- it's a very good way to keep in touch with people. I don't see much of a difference between IM clients such asJust realized I hadn't installed Discord yet... excuse to try Winget... worked.
WhatsApp and the likes of MSN other than it's based on a smart phone rather than a traditional computer. I hear a lot of people are on Discord now... I don't use that so I don't know much about it. Back when I used to play online games as a teen, we used mIRC to chat with one another. That was a LONG time ago though.
Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-
Yes... that seems to be a consequence of people once being
accustomed to using desktops for most of their login
requirements and switching to tablets or phones that seem to
manange logins a bit differently?
Here's a shout-out to Keepass and Google Drive. I keep my keepass file in Google Drive and have my passwords on my phone *and* on my desktop and laptop.
I use a plugin to add a "Connect via Putty" and "Connect Via WinSCP" right- click entry, so I for the systems I don't use a key with I can automatically connect without having to copy/paste creds.
... Where is the edge?
On 6/30/2021 7:39 AM, Andeddu wrote:
IM clients on your phone are the main form of communication now. Where I a from pretty much everyone is on WhatsApp -- it's a very good way to keep i touch with people. I don't see much of a difference between IM clients suc asJust realized I hadn't installed Discord yet... excuse to try Winget... worked.
WhatsApp and the likes of MSN other than it's based on a smart phone rathe than a traditional computer. I hear a lot of people are on Discord now... don't use that so I don't know much about it. Back when I used to play onl games as a teen, we used mIRC to chat with one another. That was a LONG ti ago though.
These days, I've seen some instances where smartphone text messages
are available on a PC/laptop
But Telegram is pretty sweet. ;)
I installed it on both my phone and PC. Now I need to find
someone else that uses it.
I am t.me/aabolins My icon is a pile of books with a hat on
On 6/30/2021 7:39 AM, Andeddu wrote:
IM clients on your phone are the main form of communication now. Where I am from pretty much everyone is on WhatsApp -- it's a very good way to keep in touch with people. I don't see much of a difference between IM clients such asJust realized I hadn't installed Discord yet... excuse to try Winget... worked.
WhatsApp and the likes of MSN other than it's based on a smart phone rather than a traditional computer. I hear a lot of people are on Discord now... I don't use that so I don't know much about it. Back when I used to play online games as a teen, we used mIRC to chat with one another. That was a LONG time ago though.
--
My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
Don't forget to send your RAM to the hospital so they can use a rape kit on it after Discord is finished with it.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
If you like the Google Drive approach, Nextcloud would also work, pluss
it has its own integrated password management solution via plugins.
If you already have Telegram set up, there are only two steps
to link up:
[1] Send a %LIST command in the chat with the @Fido2telebot for
list of available areas.
[2] Send a %help command in the chat with the @Fido2telebot for
more info.
fuck that shit.
i dont have time in my life for that horseshit.
http://t.me/aztracker1
https://t.me/bbsiochat
but the group is really dead...
If anyone has other groups to share that they like.
These days, I've seen some instances where smartphone text messages
are available on a PC/laptop
Windows 11 has that too (works with Android, dunno about iOS). Of
course, I've been using Google Voice, since it was Grand Central before Google bought them, so using my phone and desktop is pretty much been it... though I've also experienced every pain of Google's schizophrenic approach to chat applications.
The %userprofile allows you to create an optional tagline, a
signature, a real name, etc. This is akin to a minimum
registration on a BBS.
fuck that shit.
i dont have time in my life for that horseshit.
I had a Samsung phone not too long ago, and they had some
software for Windows PCs that would let you control your
phone from your PC. It would show the phone's screen on
your PC and you could interact with it using that software.
I thought it was interesting.
Hello MRO!
** On Monday 19.07.21 - 09:25, MRO wrote to Ogg:
The %userprofile allows you to create an optional tagline, a
signature, a real name, etc. This is akin to a minimum
registration on a BBS.
fuck that shit.
i dont have time in my life for that horseshit.
The minimum requirement for %userprofile is Real Name.
The other parts, %LIST and %HELP are no different than what any
sysop is used to.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
If you like the Google Drive approach, Nextcloud would also work, pluss it has its own integrated password management solution via plugins.
If I ever move back to a "real" ISP, the first thing I'll do is put a box on a UPS at my house and go back to self-hosting. I did that way back when on a server-friendly ISP and enjoyed running my own services.
I could put it on a VPS, but the data would be (I think) unencrypted and in the cl
- unless I'm mistaken. If there was a way to encrypt data at rest, I'd be all over
that.
... Powered By Celeron (Tualatin). Engineered for the future.
The minimum requirement for %userprofile is Real Name.
The other parts, %LIST and %HELP are no different than what
any sysop is used to.
or they could just moderate the channel instead of having
people jump through hoops -+-
Here's a shout-out to Keepass and Google Drive. I keep my
keepass file in Google Drive and have my passwords on my
phone *and* on my desktop and laptop.
I use a plugin to add a "Connect via Putty" and "Connect
Via WinSCP" right- click entry, so I for the systems I
don't use a key with I can automatically connect without
having to copy/paste creds.
Hello pF!
** On Monday 19.07.21 - 08:06, you wrote to me:
Here's a shout-out to Keepass and Google Drive. I keep my
keepass file in Google Drive and have my passwords on my
phone *and* on my desktop and laptop.
I'm still leery of putting my trust into an app like Keepass.
Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
What plugin is that? I find that SyncTerm seems to "remember"
the SSH creds and logins are automatic.
My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
Don't forget to send your RAM to the hospital so they can use a
rape kit on it after Discord is finished with it.
If you self-host in the cloud, you can use an encrypted volume if youIf you like the Google Drive approach, Nextcloud would also work, pluss
it has its own integrated password management solution via plugins.
If I ever move back to a "real" ISP, the first thing I'll do is put a box on a UPS at my house and go back to self-hosting. I did that way back when on a server-friendly ISP and enjoyed running my own services.
I could put it on a VPS, but the data would be (I think) unencrypted and in the cloud - unless I'm mistaken. If there was a way to encrypt data at rest, I'd be all over that.
http://t.me/aztracker1
We connected. Good to meet you.
https://t.me/bbsiochat
but the group is really dead...
I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group, since
it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?
If anyone has other groups to share that they like.
I'm linked up with ProgrammerJokes and one of the RT news
channels. I don't think I would even want more at this point.
https://t.me/rtintl
https://t.me/programmerjokes
The vast majority of my other links are the Fido2Telegram
groups (via @Fido2Telebot) which are linked to the echos with
Fidonet.
Windows 11 has that too (works with Android, dunno about iOS). Of
course, I've been using Google Voice, since it was Grand Central
before Google bought them, so using my phone and desktop is pretty
much been it... though I've also experienced every pain of Google's
schizophrenic approach to chat applications.
That's cool. I heard Windows 11 is supposed to be able to run Android
apps.
I had a Samsung phone not too long ago, and they had some software for Windows PCs that would let you control your phone from your PC. It
would show the phone's screen on your PC and you could interact with
it using that software. I thought it was interesting.
I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group, since
it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?
I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) .. my messages in
the group show up as bbsiochat, which is kind of annoying.
Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: Tracker1 to Ogg on Fri Sep 03 2021 06:56 pm
I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group, since
it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?
I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) .. my messages in the group show up as bbsiochat, which is kind of annoying.
you mean the guy who claims to be the owner but has the leaked source, right? he's so full of shit his eyes are brown.
he's been busted multiple times.
That's cool. I heard Windows 11 is supposed to be able to run Android
apps.
Yeah, apparently the feature will be post-release (October 5th) though.
I haven't seen/tried it on insiders though.
Some Samsung (and other) phones actually have a hub/desktop mode where you can use a usb3 dock and get a desktop experience, that seems kind of cool too. Hadn't seen the mirroring.
https://t.me/bbsiochat
but the group is really dead...
I dropped by. It seems to be primarily a ProBoard group,
since it's being run by the owner of ProBoard?
I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) ..
my messages in the group show up as bbsiochat, which is
kind of annoying.
The vast majority of my other links are the Fido2Telegram
groups (via @Fido2Telebot) which are linked to the echos
with Fidonet.
I'm going to have to followup, apparently my phone number
is banned (google voice number), so emailed telegram to see
if they can unban or convert me to my carrier number...
*sigh* I don't like using the carrier number as I've never
memorized it and switched carriers without porting my
number a couple times now.
On 7/20/2021 1:45 AM, Arelor wrote:
My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
Don't forget to send your RAM to the hospital so they can use a
rape kit on it after Discord is finished with it.
Every computer in my home has at least 32gb in it.
Discord sitting at 287mb here, which is pretty high for what it is...
Though I'm sitting with 40GB available, and about to drop in another
64gb with a new video card when it gets in tomorrow.
On 7/20/2021 6:54 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
If you like the Google Drive approach, Nextcloud would also work, pluss >> it has its own integrated password management solution via plugins.
If I ever move back to a "real" ISP, the first thing I'll do is put a box a UPS at my house and go back to self-hosting. I did that way back when on server-friendly ISP and enjoyed running my own services.
I could put it on a VPS, but the data would be (I think) unencrypted and i the cloud - unless I'm mistaken. If there was a way to encrypt data at res I'd be all over that.If you self-host in the cloud, you can use an encrypted volume if you
like, but given that volume can boot without a passphrase, it doesn't provide *that* much security. A few people will use FUSE mounts for the likes of S3 or similar, then encrypt that data... it'd be at rest across
a different system than the server itself, which is slightly better.
Getting my pihole and wireguard setup this weekend, at least that's the plan.
On 7/20/2021 1:45 AM, Arelor wrote:
My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
Heh, you are necroing an old thread.
Hello Arelor!
** On Sunday 05.09.21 - 08:26, Arelor wrote to Tracker1:
On 7/20/2021 1:45 AM, Arelor wrote:
My condolences for downloading and installing Discord.
[...]
Heh, you are necroing an old thread.
A message from July doesn't seem so bad. It's summertime and
people get occupied with things.
At what point in time is replying to a message considered a
necro event? And why does it seem to have a negative
connotation?
Heck, I have marked messages (intended for a reply) that are
dated much older than the one that you mention. :/
Heck, I have marked messages (intended for a reply) that are
dated much older than the one that you mention. :/
I have nothing against Necromancers. They give out a lot of XP when you defeat them.
There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think
man this dude is mentally ill.
https://youtu.be/yfFjzvCdH90?t=10823
Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to all on Sat Sep 04 2021 07:09 am
man this dude is mentally ill.
https://youtu.be/yfFjzvCdH90?t=10823
I want to run *his* software for my BBS!
--
digital man
Re: Heh, you are necroing an old thread
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Sep 06 2021 06:23 am
Heck, I have marked messages (intended for a reply) that are
dated much older than the one that you mention. :/
I have nothing against Necromancers. They give out a lot of XP when you defeat them.
There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think
tracker is different in that he is just gone for long stretches. he's not a new guy who just didnt update his msg pointers.
so i'm not sure how to complain about him.
Yeah, apparently the feature will be post-release (October 5th)
though. I haven't seen/tried it on insiders though.
I've seen Android emulators for Windows that let you run Android apps
on Windows. So it's something that's out there already. It seems
Microsoft wants it included with Windows.. I wonder if it will be
more of a seamless feature being integrated into Windows.
Some Samsung (and other) phones actually have a hub/desktop mode
where you can use a usb3 dock and get a desktop experience, that
seems kind of cool too. Hadn't seen the mirroring.
I had a Samsung S20 phone that did that, or at least something like
that. I thought it was cool. It didn't need a dock - I could plug
my phone into my PC with a USB3 cable, and the Samsung software would
let me basically see my phone screen on my PC and interact with it
from my PC that way.
I set it up.. the ProBoard owner is just in there. :-) ..
my messages in the group show up as bbsiochat, which is
kind of annoying.
I don't see any messages posted by "bbsiochat" in there. There
is an occassional post from someone using the id "Group"
though. Is that you?
You don't have to change numbers. Why not continue your account
as @azTracker1 ?
In any case, the folks at Telegram are very helpful if you run
into a ban situation and explain the circumstances. My number
was banned at one point. My number is a standard number with my
cellphone. By then, I had already installed Telegram on 3
devices. I just wanted one more device. But as soon as I went
to register/activate the installation, I got a "number is
banned" message. :( But an email to Telegram Support sorted
it all out within 12 hours.
So yes, it is awesome that you can afford to have 32 Gb of RAM on
your weakest computer. But that is not an argument to make to a
guy whose pro-computer fleet has no computer with more than 2.
I bet Tracker1 lives in a dark tower of power and spends his time
reading black tomes while listening to The Spell and raising dead
threads from the grave.
Really wanting to switch back to Linux (PopOS), but also wanting to try some AI up-scaling for video, that's limited to Windows. May have to stick a second drive in again so I can dual-boot cleaner.
i made the mistake of letting this run when i was cleaning my pet's cages and my fishtank.
he started getting really bad talking about this 18 year old woman he knocked up at 30, then showing his kid's pics and going on these rants about crazy shit. saying it's not his fault he can't keep a job or take care of his kids.
he said baby momma's last name was sanford. i wonder if that was eli's sister. it's hard to make it out.
i was like god damn dude. you should be on a government watch list.
he wasn't that bad before, he must be using crystal meth or huffing.
atleast he took down the confederate flag off the wall.
On 9/5/2021 6:26 AM, Arelor wrote:
So yes, it is awesome that you can afford to have 32 Gb of RAM on
your weakest computer. But that is not an argument to make to a
guy whose pro-computer fleet has no computer with more than 2.
I wasn't trying to be offensive... only mentioning that 16+ has been
widely available for a while, at least in the US. I'm often very
surprised when I see something with less than 8gb.
There's definitely some hard press to try to get something running that
low on resources with a modern desktop. There was some options in
Windows XP that let you use a fast USB or other drive as extension
memory. Not sure if you can still do that in Windows or Linux.
atleast he took down the confederate flag off the wall.
Jesus fuck, that guy.
https://www.freelancer.com/projects/c-programming/convert-the-source-code-pr obo ard/?ngsw-bypass=&w=f
how the hell did he get the source to ProBoard? A few years ago Philippe mentioned he wanted to give away the source code on Twitter, and a year later he said there were some copyright issues.
philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues. clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed. according to his obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name/patrick-clawson-obituary? pid=176308972 ---
Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:37 am
philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues. clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed. according to his obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name /patrick-clawson-obituary? pid=176308972 ---
I tried to find out what happened to Telegrafix and Clawson yesterday, I came across that Obituary but didn't think it was his, as there was no mention of running a company, or living in CA or VA (Where Telegrafix came from/moved to)
Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Sep 06 2021 03:36 pm
i made the mistake of letting this run when i was cleaning my pet's cages and my fishtank.
he started getting really bad talking about this 18 year old woman he knocked up at 30, then showing his kid's pics and going on these rants about crazy shit. saying it's not his fault he can't keep a job or take care of his kids.
he said baby momma's last name was sanford. i wonder if that was eli's sister. it's hard to make it out.
i was like god damn dude. you should be on a government watch list.
he wasn't that bad before, he must be using crystal meth or huffing.
atleast he took down the confederate flag off the wall.
Jesus fuck, that guy.
https://www.freelancer.com/projects/c-programming/convert-the-source-code-pr obo ard/?ngsw-bypass=&w=f
how the hell did he get the source to ProBoard? A few years ago Philippe mentioned he wanted to give away the source code on Twitter, and a year later he said there were some copyright issues.
ProBoard was the first BBS software I ever seriously ran, because all the BBSes in this area used it. (Mr. Homie's Neighborhood, which moved down to Milwaukee was one of them).
I eventually moved to Synchronet in the late 90s and didn't really look back.
philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues. clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed.
according to his
obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name/patrick-clawson -obituary?pid=176308972
Re: Re: Telegram chat(s)
By: MRO to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 23 2021 03:37 am
philippe did say he wouldnt give it out because of copyright issues. clawson's estate could sue over it being distributed. according to his obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name /patrick-clawson-obituary? pid=176308972 ---
I tried to find out what happened to Telegrafix and Clawson yesterday, I came across that Obituary but didn't think it was his, as there was no mention of running a company, or living in CA or VA (Where Telegrafix came from/moved to)
Arelor wrote to Tracker1 <=-
There's definitely some hard press to try to get something running that
low on resources with a modern desktop. There was some options in
Windows XP that let you use a fast USB or other drive as extension
memory. Not sure if you can still do that in Windows or Linux.
I was testing some setup for deployment yesterday. I used a workstation
of 2 GB of RAM and a processor so cingeworthy I am not going to ashame myself by giving its specs here.
ProBoard was the first BBS software I ever seriously ran, because
all the BBSes in this area used it. (Mr. Homie's Neighborhood, which
moved down to Milwaukee was one of them).
I don't think I've ever actually seen a ProBoard system. <shrug>
Really wanting to switch back to Linux (PopOS), but also wanting to
try some AI up-scaling for video, that's limited to Windows. May have
to stick a second drive in again so I can dual-boot cleaner.
Is it Topaz Video Enhance AI by chance? I've been using that on and
off since about April last year to do some video upscaling. I've
considered switching to Linux for a long time but haven't due to
software, and now Topaz Video Enhance AI is one reason why.
Is it Topaz Video Enhance AI by chance? I've been using that on and
That would be the one... been meaning to play with it, I have some DVDs that don't have HD versions that I'd been wanting to upscale, though
dual boot should work for the future... also, not sure how much I'm willing to deal with the secure boot in windows, and if it will/won't work in Linux for me.
How has it been working for you... now that I have a 3080, hoping it
will chew through it relatively quickly.
according to his
obituary he has heirs. https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/flint/name/patrick-clawson -obituary?pid=176308972
I didn't know he passed away. Thanks.
mention of running a company, or living in CA or VA (Where Telegrafix came from/moved to)
I remember when I talked to Pat on the phone once or twice he liked to brag about his experience at CNN and his accumulated awards. It sounds like the right guy to me.
nobody uses instant msging anymore.
Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in, having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
knightbbs wrote:
nobody uses instant msging anymore.
Shame actually. I got on the net in 1996 and ICQ and IRC were my main means of communication. I loved getting the oh-ow sounds when logging in, having people reach out to me and exchanging messages.
I used ICQ, AIM, Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger...I still remember my ICQ
Nelgin wrote to knightbbs <=-
I'm pretty bummed YIM shut down, that was a decent messenger. In the
end I used some multi-messenger program, I forgot which, but then
people started moving away and using FB and snapchat and stuff.
I used ICQ, AIM, Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger...I still remember my ICQ number, and it's only 7 digits :)
I'm pretty bummed YIM shut down, that was a decent messenger. In the end I used some multi-messenger program, I forgot which, but then people started moving away and using FB and snapchat and stuff. I don't have a snap, or a tictok...well, I do because I had to post something for a contest, but other than that I never use them.
There was a golden age where GAIM (and it's later incarnation, Pidgin) were a part of work and play. I had a security chat on SILC, some friends on Yahoo, work used AIM (with a proxy so we could connect when the net was down), I had a Jabber server running, and other friends elsewhere. Skype even worked, if only for chat. I'd even had it plugged into Synchro.net's IRC network.
i think someone just posted it on the internet. he has paid people for it in the past, or so he says so he thinks he owns it. he said he paid clawson money for it and he got an asm dump. pcmike looked at the paperwork and the signatures were all computer generated. he would talk about it on irc and i'd go back in the logs and catch him lying so who knows what the truth is.
"Yes, it's legit, he "bought" the rights from Jeff Reeder, former employee of Telegrafix. Although I have my doubts about who actually had the rights to ProBoard after Pat died."
I mean, he looks like he lives in a trailer park, so it can't be much...
I mean, he looks like he lives in a trailer park, so it can't be much...
DaiTengu
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
seem to work well all the time with all the different chat protocols.
I knew a couple people who used Pidgin & similar, and sometimes it
seemed their chat app would report me online when I wasn't or
vice-versa. Or sometimes I'd try to send them a file from my chat
client and they couldn't receive it, etc..
did you purposely not quote the date so i couldnt call you a necroposter
Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
By: MRO to Nelgin on Thu Sep 30 2021 08:38:02
did you purposely not quote the date so i couldnt call you a necroposter
It only just showed up here so either something got something stuck and finally send it out, or someone dumped a lot of dupes that were so old I didn't have them any more so no idea.
There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think something is necro when it happens long after interest on the thread has waned.
[...] I bet Tracker1 lives in a dark tower of power and spends his
time reading black tomes while listening to The Spell and raising dead threads from the grave.
There is no hard rule for defining what is necro and what is not. I think something is necro when it happens long after interest on the thread has waned.
What I think is funny/odd is, if someone starts a new thread about the same topic, that's fine. But some people seem to get annoyed when someone responds to another thread about the same topic if it's a somewhat old thread. I guess we shouldn't assume the original poster is still interested (but maybe they are). But if people can start new threads, I don't see why it should be such a big deal to respond to other threads regarding the same topic.
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