• Text.dat Phrases

    From The Millionaire@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:31:17
    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user is kind of informal these days.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 15:43:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that
    user is kind of informal these days.

    Negative. I much prefer "user".



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 14:25:21
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31 am

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user is kind of informal these days.

    How is "user" more informal than "person" in this context? And why would it be a problem?

    "User" seems totally reasonable. It refers to the person using the BBS. "Person" might be a little too general or ambiguous. I'm not sure how "person" would make more sense here. Could you give some examples from text.dat where you think "person" would make more sense?

    Nightfox

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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 18:23:50
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31:17

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user is kind of informal these days.

    What if all "users" aren't "people"? You might offend a bot and instead of becoming self "aware", all AI might become self "awoke". :O


    SYS64738

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 20:22:20
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31 am

    How is "user" more informal than "person" in this context? And why would it be a problem?

    "User" seems totally reasonable. It refers to the person using the BBS. "Person" might be a little too general or ambiguous. I'm not sure how "person" would make more sense here. Could you give some examples from text.dat where you think "person" would make more sense?

    Nightfox

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    Examples:

    You can't email this person.
    This person is not available to chat right now.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Sys64738 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 20:25:45
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31:17

    What if all "users" aren't "people"? You might offend a bot and instead of becoming self "aware", all AI might become self "awoke". :O

    SYS64738

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    If it's a bot then you can say it or them or they.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 23:54:00
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Tue Oct 12 2021 02:25 pm

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31 am

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user i kind of informal these days.

    How is "user" more informal than "person" in this context? And why would it

    "User" seems totally reasonable. It refers to the person using the BBS. "P ld make more sense?

    Nightfox


    User or operator are anologous to a driver operating an automobile. Works
    for me

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Sys64738 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 00:16:00
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Sys64738 to The Millionaire on Tue Oct 12 2021 06:23 pm

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31:17

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user is kind of informal these days.

    What if all "users" aren't "people"? You might offend a bot and instead of


    SYS64738

    This reminds me of an old film from the 70's where a group of businessmen developed an adavanced simulation (similar to the matrix) in order to test out
    variables that could affect the economy att he world level.

    In the story an "simulated" person becomes aware his environment is not real because he can recallprevious versions each time a variable is altered, and also notices hgih profile people appearing and disappearing near a set of telephones in a public area.

    He picks up the handset on one of the special courtesy phones,and the operator asks if he's ready to leave. He agrees and is transported to the outside world. He begins to question how he, a fabrication of a simulation can exist outside of it, then comes to the conclusion the "visitors" to his reality are not really outside, and are part of a larger simulation themselves.

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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to Moondog on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 08:04:33
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Moondog to Sys64738 on Wed Oct 13 2021 00:16:00

    This reminds me of an old film from the 70's where a group of businessmen developed an adavanced simulation (similar to the matrix) in order to test out
    variables that could affect the economy att he world level.

    In the story an "simulated" person becomes aware his environment is not real because he can recallprevious versions each time a variable is altered, and also notices hgih profile people appearing and disappearing near a set of telephones in a public area.

    He picks up the handset on one of the special courtesy phones,and the operator asks if he's ready to leave. He agrees and is transported to the outside world. He begins to question how he, a fabrication of a simulation can exist outside of it, then comes to the conclusion the "visitors" to his reality are not really outside, and are part of a larger simulation themselves.

    Sounds interesting and a lot like one ofo my favorite movies "The Thirteenth Floor" (1999) which I recommend you see if you get a chance.

    Do you recall the title of the film you mentioned? I think I'd enjoy seeing it as well.

    SYS64738

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 09:07:19
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Oct 12 2021 11:54 pm

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Tue Oct 12 2021 02:25 pm

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31 am

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user i kind of informal these days.

    How is "user" more informal than "person" in this context? And why would it

    "User" seems totally reasonable. It refers to the person using the BBS. "P ld make more sense?

    Nightfox


    User or operator are anologous to a driver operating an automobile. Works for me


    i request that we change it to 'retard'
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 09:43:22
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Tue Oct 12 2021 08:22 pm

    "User" seems totally reasonable. It refers to the person using the
    BBS. "Person" might be a little too general or ambiguous. I'm not
    sure how "person" would make more sense here. Could you give some
    examples from text.dat where you think "person" would make more sense?

    You can't email this person.
    This person is not available to chat right now.

    "Person" sounds okay there but I don't think it makes much difference compared to "user".

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Sys64738 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 09:53:14
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Sys64738 to The Millionaire on Tue Oct 12 2021 06:23 pm

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user
    is kind of informal these days.

    What if all "users" aren't "people"? You might offend a bot and instead of becoming self "aware", all AI might become self "awoke". :O

    I identify as a meat popsicle.

    https://img.memecdn.com/i-am-meat-popsicle_o_3203387.jpg

    Nightfox

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to The Millionaire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 13:31:12
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31 am

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user is kind of informal these days.

    If we are going there, I think Member would be more distintive. I think of my users as members, after all, You join a bbs, and after you join, you are in the membership.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT/TRMB to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:49:31
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Tue Oct 12 2021 08:22 pm

    "Person" sounds okay there but I don't think it makes much difference compared to "user".

    Nightfox

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    Gender compared to sex does though.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 13:26:26
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 12 2021 10:31 am

    If we are going there, I think Member would be more distintive. I think of my users as members, after all, You join a bbs, and after you join, you are in the membership.

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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    Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
    Valhalla Home Services Web! - http://bbs.valhallabbs.com
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    Home Of Odin's Maze Game Server!
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    Yes visitor also comes to mind as well.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to The Millionaire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 16:49:04
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to DesotoFireflite on Wed Oct 13 2021 01:26 pm

    Yes visitor also comes to mind as well.

    That's the nice thing about Synchronet, you can have whatever you want, just change the text.dat file to whatever you like....

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 16:02:16
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Oct 13 2021 10:49 am

    "Person" sounds okay there but I don't think it makes much difference
    compared to "user".

    Gender compared to sex does though.

    Yes.. Though "person" and "user" don't have any gender or sex, so I'm not sure how that's relevant.

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Sys64738 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 19:04:00
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Sys64738 to Moondog on Wed Oct 13 2021 08:04 am

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Moondog to Sys64738 on Wed Oct 13 2021 00:16:00

    This reminds me of an old film from the 70's where a group of businessmen developed an adavanced simulation (similar to the matrix) in order to tes out
    variables that could affect the economy att he world level.

    In the story an "simulated" person becomes aware his environment is not r because he can recallprevious versions each time a variable is altered, a also notices hgih profile people appearing and disappearing near a set of telephones in a public area.

    He picks up the handset on one of the special courtesy phones,and the operator asks if he's ready to leave. He agrees and is transported to th outside world. He begins to question how he, a fabrication of a simulati can exist outside of it, then comes to the conclusion the "visitors" to h reality are not really outside, and are part of a larger simulation themselves.

    Sounds interesting and a lot like one ofo my favorite movies "The Thirteenth

    Do you recall the title of the film you mentioned? I think I'd enjoy seeing

    SYS64738

    I'll look for it. It was mentioned in a Youtube video about the something called the simulation conspiracy. before covid hit, the theory we live in a controlled environment was rising up the conspiracy charts.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 20:35:00
    Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Tue Oct 12 2021 08:22 pm

    "User" seems totally reasonable. It refers to the person using the
    BBS. "Person" might be a little too general or ambiguous. I'm not
    sure how "person" would make more sense here. Could you give some
    examples from text.dat where you think "person" would make more sense?

    You can't email this person.
    This person is not available to chat right now.

    "Person" sounds okay there but I don't think it makes much
    difference compared to "user".

    I agree. This is just more TM nonsensical jabber.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 20:36:00
    Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Oct 13 2021 10:49 am

    "Person" sounds okay there but I don't think it makes much difference
    compared to "user".

    Gender compared to sex does though.

    Yes.. Though "person" and "user" don't have any gender or sex,
    so I'm not sure how that's relevant.

    It absolutely isn't relevant.

    It's just more TM idiocy and strangeness. I think his mind is damaged.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 20:44:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Tue Oct 12 2021 08:22 pm

    "Person" sounds okay there but I don't think it makes much difference compared to "user".

    Gender compared to sex does though.

    But that isn't what we're talking about.

    Why interject that? Crawl back into your hole.



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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to Moondog on Wednesday, October 13, 2021 22:25:09
    Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Moondog to Sys64738 on Wed Oct 13 2021 19:04:00

    I'll look for it. It was mentioned in a Youtube video about the something called the simulation conspiracy. before covid hit, the theory we live in a controlled environment was rising up the conspiracy charts.

    cool. thanks.
    SYS64738

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT/TRMB to Gamgee on Thursday, October 14, 2021 09:45:33
    But that isn't what we're talking about.

    Why interject that? Crawl back into your hole.

    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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    Maybe you should too.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT/TRMB to Gamgee on Thursday, October 14, 2021 09:46:22
    It absolutely isn't relevant.

    It's just more TM idiocy and strangeness. I think his mind is damaged.

    ... Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about
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    Yeah it is from people like you.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT/TRMB to Gamgee on Thursday, October 14, 2021 09:47:18
    I agree. This is just more TM nonsensical jabber.

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    Talking about yourself again I see.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Thursday, October 14, 2021 14:19:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I agree. This is just more TM nonsensical jabber.

    Talking about yourself again I see.

    Really? Are you 12 years old?



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to The Millionaire on Thursday, October 14, 2021 07:01:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user
    is kind of informal these days.

    I prefer "Carbon Unit".


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Thursday, October 14, 2021 19:13:09
    Really? Are you 12 years old?

    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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    Well 5 + 7 = 12.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 14, 2021 19:20:02
    Re: Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 14 2021 07:01 am

    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that
    user is kind of informal these days.

    I prefer "Carbon Unit".

    How about "ugly bag of mostly water"?
    (Star Trek: TNG reference)

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 14, 2021 23:52:47
    Re: Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 14 2021 07:01 am

    I prefer "Carbon Unit".

    how about "Meatbag" ?

    DaiTengu

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Friday, October 15, 2021 07:53:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Really? Are you 12 years old?

    Well 5 + 7 = 12.

    Are you saying you won't be 12 for another 7 years?



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  • From The Millionaire@VERT/TRMB to Gamgee on Friday, October 15, 2021 15:26:27
    Are you saying you won't be 12 for another 7 years?

    ... Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about
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    I'm 57 but if you add my age you get 12.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to The Millionaire on Saturday, October 16, 2021 06:27:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I'm 57 but if you add my age you get 12.

    This common core crap is making my head hurt.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, October 16, 2021 15:29:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I'm 57 but if you add my age you get 12.

    This common core crap is making my head hurt.

    Are you talking about the math, or the English grammar? :-)


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to The Millionaire on Saturday, October 23, 2021 22:40:46
    On 10/12/21 10:31 AM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Wouldn't it be better to change "user" to "person"? I think that user
    is kind of informal these days.

    Isn't that very human-centric? What about non-people and bots or ai
    personas. We wouldn't want to use non-inclusive terms.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Tracker1 on Sunday, October 24, 2021 10:42:32
    Re: Re: Text.dat Phrases
    By: Tracker1 to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 23 2021 10:40 pm

    Isn't that very human-centric? What about non-people and bots or ai personas. We wouldn't want to use non-inclusive terms.

    Yeah, what about uplifted animals? What if my dog wants to get on my BBS? Or a dolphin, or Kimolu and Matt from the Cerritos (This is a Star Trek: Lower Decks reference)?

    DaiTengu

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